Well, it might be clear in your mind Yaroslav, but Fæ point is that is
not clear at all in the answer of Nicole. So she might seize the
question to make it perfectly clear or just let it in a fuzzy state
which would give more credit to your point of view.
Thus said, while I do share concerns about this "endorse or hush"
enforcement, I wouldn't qualify my point of view as being that of a
dissenter.
Le 27/10/2017 à 12:12, Yaroslav Blanter a écrit :
I think the situation is pretty clear, and we have already many statements
exactly about this point. The dissenters are being, and will continue being
simply ignored.
Cheers
Yaroslav
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry Nicole, what you have written is ambiguous. Will all affiliates and
individual volunteers be able to be full participants in later discussion
on the strategy, to exactly the same level as those that endorsed phase
one?
Saying that nobody gets "banned" does not ensure an open process. I.e. that
those not in the "club" will have the same access privileges or will not be
simply ignored as "non-U".
Thanks
Fae
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LGBT+
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On 27 Oct 2017 09:50, "Nicole Ebber" <nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Hi all,
By endorsing, people and organizations state that they agree that the
direction is the right way for us as a movement to move forward, and
that they commit to participate in phase 2 conversations in good
faith. And in phase 2, we will discuss how to fill this direction with
life. The next steps will will be designed as an inclusive process,
but we won't "oblige" anyone to contribute to phase 2, nor will we
"ban" people from it. A look into our FAQ can further clarify:
"How you use the outcomes of this discussion is up to you. Some
individuals or organizations may use it to inform programmatic or
organizational strategy. Others may see it as a way to connect with
the broader movement and invite others to contribute to Wikimedia.
Some may not use it at all – and that’s okay!
Practically, this does not mean that volunteers will be more
restricted in what activities they develop or engage in. Volunteers
will remain free to engage in activities that interest them and they
believe will most benefit Wikimedia and the world."
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
movement/2017/Frequently_asked_questions#How_will_this_
impact_me_or_my_organization.3F)
Hope that helps,
Nicole
On 27 October 2017 at 10:21, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
I'm not sure how I missed that strongarm-statement ("the endorsement is
also a necessary step in order to participate in phase 2 discussions").
I'm
confident that this is a typo of a kind. It does not match with how I
know
the people in charge of this process.
Lodewijk
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 12:51 AM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct 2017 09:00, "Nicole Ebber" <nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Dear Wikimedians,
Today marks the final milestone of phase 1 of our movement strategy
process. Over the past eight months, many of you, of your peers,
colleagues, partners and friends have contributed to an endeavor that
resulted in the new Strategic Direction of the Wikimedia movement.
This direction provides us with an answer to the question: What do we
want to build and achieve as a movement over the next 10–15 years: By
2030, Wikimedia will become the essential infrastructure of the
ecosystem of free knowledge, and anyone who shares our vision will be
able to join us.[1]
On behalf of the strategy team, it’s with great pleasure that I invite
you today to declare your intent to work together towards this future.
Organized groups as well as individual contributors of our movement
are invited to endorse the Strategic Direction by adding their
signature to the endorsement page on Meta-Wiki. You will find all
necessary instructions there.[2]
By endorsing the Strategic Direction, you are not necessarily agreeing
with every single outcome of the first phase. Endorsing means that you
commit to participating in the next phase of this discussion in good
faith and to help define, by Wikimania 2018, how to come to an
agreement on roles, responsibilities, and organizational strategies
that enable us to implement that future.
In addition to signing the meta page, you are all welcome to use the
#wikimedia2030 hashtag on social media to celebrate and share your
excitement with the world and encourage other Wikimedians to show
their support, too.
Ideally, please leave questions or remarks on the talk page, to make
it easier to follow-up in a structured way.
Thank you!
Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
movement/2017/Direction#Our_strategic_direction:_Service_and_Equity
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
movement/2017/Direction/Endorsement
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Could Nicole, or someone else who is acting for the WMF, rephrase
"Please
note that the strategic direction will not be renegotiated, and *the
endorsement is also a necessary step in order to participate in phase 2
discussions*." This needs clarification to ensure that the same values
of
transparency and openness declared in the Movement Strategy applies to
its
own process.
As currently worded, no afflilate that is committed to openness should
endorse the document, as it appears to create a closed club that
deliberately excludes all possible critical future voices. Whatever that
is, it is not the Wikimedia Community.
Thanks
Fae
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