I heartily agree : build that firewall, and let Cisco pay for it ! Wait, what were you suggesting in your incipit ? Oh, right, "a way that's rational, avoiding to create unnecessary panic of course". I'd rather not ask of people organizing conventions (which is already time-consuming by itself) that they *solve terrorism in their town*, which is what the police are probably more suited for, if you don't mind ; as a matter of fact, it is not one of their duties as convention holders, plain and simple, and neither are they doctors, police officers, judges, jesters, masseuses, nannies, yoga instructors, cooks, indentured servants, etc (except of course if they are, which may happen).
So let's please not overreact, and stick to the current discussion instead of having the next WikiConvention in a flying fortress with armed guards, sniffing dogs, and metal detectors at every door… Roger / Alphos 2018-04-05 18:40 GMT+02:00 Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>: > I remember we discussed 2 or 3 years about this scenario with some > wikimedians off wiki. I strongly support to discuss at least once openly > about that. In a way that it's rational, avoiding to create unnecessary > panic... of course. > > > Despite the claimed neutrality of the communities, reality always bites. > Now, a terrorist can imagine that we will not put a black banner if someone > kill a lot of people somewhere... but if same amount of wikimedians are > killed at a international rally the probability that a block ribbon, an > editnotice with a statement appear on many language edition is higher. it's > an attack at the community like it is a proposal of a law somewhere, and we > naturally react stronger. > > > It would be a bigger impact, if you think about it. You can get the > attention of billions of people every time they connect to the 5th or 6th > largest website in the world. Cynically speaking, if you also consider the > facts that it's about free knowledge and volunteers, than a mass murder at > at a wikimedian event might be more "effective" than at a discotheque or > the seat of a multinational conglomerate. > > > If i remember correctly. in the months before a certain wiki-event, many > people linked to radical activities were arrested in the area, in the same > country. So, when you organize an event, it's not just about safety but > also security. Even if it is not nice to think about it, and of course you > try to do it mostly in private, you should clearly write down at least at a > certain point that you are preparing to all scenario, contacting the police > and so on. it should be a paragraph in a candidature for an event, IMHO. > but it should be done. > > A.M. > > Il Giovedì 5 Aprile 2018 18:09, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> ha > scritto: > > > I read/receive related craps > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk: > Vituzzu&diff=prev&oldid=831949995> > on > a daily basis but it's hard to tell an idiot from a psychopath, so it may > become a risk for WMF offices. > > Vito > > 2018-04-05 17:33 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>: > > > I'm sure most of you will be aware of the unfortunate events at > > YouTube's HQ a couple fo days ago: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_headquarters_shooting > > > > Without giving away anything that might reveal vulnerabilities, does > > the WMF have contingency plans for such an incident? What about at > > community events in the US, and elsewhere? > > > > -- > > Andy Mabbett > > @pigsonthewing > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
