Thanks for offering to answer questions. I asked one but couldn't log onto Zoom due to being busy.
Do we know when notes of the hour will be out? Samuel/RhinosF1 On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 08:30, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Agreed that office hours are a nice idea, although > > 1. For privacy reasons,I don't think that they need to be on video. > Sue had them on IRC. In the Wikimedia Cafe several of us use audio > only. > > 2. I'm digesting what Maggie said about the incidents of last July. > I'm not sure that the version of events that was communicated to her > captures how I would describe the multiple bad decisions that > happened, and I'm not inclined to believe that the problems can be > summed up as poor communications. I don't mean to put words in > Maggie's mouth, and I don't think that she was trying to provide a > comprehensive view of her briefing, but I also have concerns regarding > what I heard in her summary, and I would encourage Maggie to probe > extensively into what happened while she was on leave. > > I don't know what all was going on inside of WMF, but I would have > wanted an outsider -- that is, not someone inside of WMF -- to review > the actions of the staff, similar to how police departments are > sometimes reviewed by outside agencies after high profile incidents, > and I would want the report from that review to be public. Given my > perspective on what happened, I think that at least one WMF staff > person probably should have been demoted or fired, and perhaps more > than one, up to and including Katherine. However, I don't have enough > information to decide what accountability measures should have been > taken. I would have more faith in the integrity of WMF if there had > been an outside review as I describe here, including public > accountability for the actions of individual staff, much as we do on > English Wikipedia for administrators and functionaries. > > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 6:30 AM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l > <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > Yes thank you very much. I really liked the sincerity and the straight > to the point amswers. It feels great to be listened at and given sincere > answers. > > > > Make this call a best practice, it rocked. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Nattes à chat > > > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > > > > Le 4 juin 2020 à 22:16, Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > > > > True, (because of connectivity issues I was disconnected for some > time). > > > Thanks Maggie for answering the questions and clarifying things. All > the > > > best and good wishes. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Tito Dutta > > > Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to > remind > > > me over email or phone call. > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 01:17, Aron Manning <aronmanni...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> > > >> Thank you, Maggie, Elena and Nick for this meeting! > > >> > > >> The event was very well organized on the first try, focused and > > >> informative. > > >> Special thanks to Maggie for tirelessly answering all the questions > and > > >> giving insight to the wide spectrum of challenges. > > >> > > >> It was great to hear that transparency will be an important part of > the > > >> processes to be developed and that the communities will be involved in > > >> working out the details. I think this is going in the right direction > to > > >> establish trust and cooperation with the communities and a mutually > > >> agreeable outcome. > > >> > > >> Thank you to all participants and I hope there will be more meetings > as > > >> this project progresses! > > >> > > >> > > >> Aron > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 23:24, Maggie Dennis <mden...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> We will post notes from the meeting, with the identity of > question-askers > > >>> anonymized, afterward. Questions can be submitted on Telegram [1], > on IRC > > >>> [2] or in the YouTube Chat or by email in advance to > > >> answ...@wikimedia.org > > >>> (To make sure they are presented during this meeting, please use > “Trust & > > >>> Safety” as the subject line.) > > >>> > > >>> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- Thanks, Samuel _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
