Hello, all! The notes of the hour are out now! Apologies for the delay; I wanted to get answers to a few questions that came in after the session and where I wasn't able to answer at the time before reading a link. They have been marked for translation. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2020-06-04
Thanks to Ad for saving me from myself and moving them from July to June. :) I also thank those of you who said kind things about the hour...and who asked even hard questions in kind ways. I plan to do this again in a few months, with more notice this time. Warm regards, Maggie On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 3:37 AM RhinosF1 - <rhino...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for offering to answer questions. I asked one but couldn't log onto > Zoom due to being busy. > > Do we know when notes of the hour will be out? > > Samuel/RhinosF1 > > On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 08:30, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Agreed that office hours are a nice idea, although >> >> 1. For privacy reasons,I don't think that they need to be on video. >> Sue had them on IRC. In the Wikimedia Cafe several of us use audio >> only. >> >> 2. I'm digesting what Maggie said about the incidents of last July. >> I'm not sure that the version of events that was communicated to her >> captures how I would describe the multiple bad decisions that >> happened, and I'm not inclined to believe that the problems can be >> summed up as poor communications. I don't mean to put words in >> Maggie's mouth, and I don't think that she was trying to provide a >> comprehensive view of her briefing, but I also have concerns regarding >> what I heard in her summary, and I would encourage Maggie to probe >> extensively into what happened while she was on leave. >> >> I don't know what all was going on inside of WMF, but I would have >> wanted an outsider -- that is, not someone inside of WMF -- to review >> the actions of the staff, similar to how police departments are >> sometimes reviewed by outside agencies after high profile incidents, >> and I would want the report from that review to be public. Given my >> perspective on what happened, I think that at least one WMF staff >> person probably should have been demoted or fired, and perhaps more >> than one, up to and including Katherine. However, I don't have enough >> information to decide what accountability measures should have been >> taken. I would have more faith in the integrity of WMF if there had >> been an outside review as I describe here, including public >> accountability for the actions of individual staff, much as we do on >> English Wikipedia for administrators and functionaries. >> >> Pine >> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) >> >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 6:30 AM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l >> <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: >> > >> > Yes thank you very much. I really liked the sincerity and the straight >> to the point amswers. It feels great to be listened at and given sincere >> answers. >> > >> > Make this call a best practice, it rocked. >> > >> > Warm regards, >> > >> > Nattes à chat >> > >> > Envoyé de mon iPhone >> > >> > > Le 4 juin 2020 à 22:16, Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> > > >> > > True, (because of connectivity issues I was disconnected for some >> time). >> > > Thanks Maggie for answering the questions and clarifying things. All >> the >> > > best and good wishes. >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > Tito Dutta >> > > Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to >> remind >> > > me over email or phone call. >> > > >> > > >> > >> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 01:17, Aron Manning <aronmanni...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Thank you, Maggie, Elena and Nick for this meeting! >> > >> >> > >> The event was very well organized on the first try, focused and >> > >> informative. >> > >> Special thanks to Maggie for tirelessly answering all the questions >> and >> > >> giving insight to the wide spectrum of challenges. >> > >> >> > >> It was great to hear that transparency will be an important part of >> the >> > >> processes to be developed and that the communities will be involved >> in >> > >> working out the details. I think this is going in the right >> direction to >> > >> establish trust and cooperation with the communities and a mutually >> > >> agreeable outcome. >> > >> >> > >> Thank you to all participants and I hope there will be more meetings >> as >> > >> this project progresses! >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Aron >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 23:24, Maggie Dennis <mden...@wikimedia.org> >> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> We will post notes from the meeting, with the identity of >> question-askers >> > >>> anonymized, afterward. Questions can be submitted on Telegram [1], >> on IRC >> > >>> [2] or in the YouTube Chat or by email in advance to >> > >> answ...@wikimedia.org >> > >>> (To make sure they are presented during this meeting, please use >> “Trust & >> > >>> Safety” as the subject line.) >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > -- > Thanks, > Samuel > -- Maggie Dennis Vice President, Community Resilience & Sustainability Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
