OTRS has always seemed modeled after our wikis; self-selecting,
self-perpetuating, self-governing... Often inconsistent, and always opaque
to outsiders. There was a time when this was regarded as a feature. As
other functions have become more transparent and accountable, OTRS has kept
a low profile.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 5:42 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> This is the first time that I heard that the rules and policies of a
> volunteer body are confidential. As a CU and OS we don't have any
> confidential policy (confidential data, sure)
>
> Can you elaborate more?
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 7:52 PM Jonatan Svensson Glad <
> gladjona...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > Some quick non-answer (better knows as !answers):
> >
> > 1. what are OTRS' rules and policies?
> > I’m unable to answer this due to the Confidentiality Agreement all OTRS
> > agents sign. <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/L45> Any and all
> > information on the OTRS wiki is private. OTRS wiki is used as a private
> > workspace restricted to Wikimedia Foundation staff, chapter
> > representatives, and Volunteer Response Team members, and is is strictly
> > confidential.
> >
> > 2. where are those rules and policies documented, and why are they not
> > public?
> > All rules and policies not stored on a local wiki (Commons, enwp, etc.)
> or
> > Meta are stored on the OTRS wiki <http://otrs-wiki.wikimedia.org>. Why,
> > if any rules or policies posted on OTRS wiki, are not public, I’m unable
> to
> > answer this due to the Confidentiality Agreement all OTRS agents sign.
> >
> > 3. where are those rules and policies discussed and decided?
> > If not discussed publicly on a local wiki (Commons, enwp, etc.) or Meta,
> > they can be discussed on e.g. the Café on the OTRS wiki <
> > http://otrs-wiki.wikimedia.org> or on the mailing list. Or, I guess, by
> > ”decree" by WMF.
> >
> > 4. what is the process for getting those rules and policies changed (or
> > reworded for clarity)?
> > I’m unable to answer this due to the Confidentiality Agreement all OTRS
> > agents sign.
> >
> > 5. how is OTRS overseen, and who by?
> > OTRS has 9 ”OTRS admins” <
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS#OTRS_administrators>. I believe
> OTRS
> > falls under the Communications committee’s purview, and perhaps T&S.
> >
> > 6. what is the approval process for an individual to become an OTRS
> agent?
> > Please see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/Volunteering.
> >
> > 7. what is the process for the community to remove an individual’s OTRS
> > permissions, if they fail to uphold or abide by policy?
> > I do not know the answer to this question.
> >
> > 8. if an individual has been acting contrary to policy, what is the
> > process for reviewing and if necessary overturning their past actions
> > (including contacting and apologising to their correspondents)?
> > I’m unable to answer this due to the Confidentiality Agreement all OTRS
> > agents sign.
> >
> > 9. which individuals can make someone an OTRS agent, or remove their
> > permissions?
> > OTRS admins <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS#OTRS_administrators>.
> >
> > 10. how are the individuals in #9 appointed and overseen?
> > I do not know the answer to this question.
> >
> >
> > Jonatan Svensson Glad
> > Josve05a
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