On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 14:47, Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > I fail to understand how requiring public report of publicly-occurring > harassment is a problem.
"Don't be a cunt" "Fuck off" "Stop being hysterical" + Far worse actually gets tolerated, and I'm not quoting any here, you work out why Anyone feeling they are targeted or harassed with unpleasant personal comments, especially newer editors, would be INCREDIBLY STUPID to attempt to complain about it on Wikipedia's ANI. It will boomerang, and the history of that noticeboard shows that the complainant is likely to be treated as a troublemaker by the admin corps, with a high probability of reasons being found to sanction the troublemaker if they try to answer questions in public. There's plenty of "unfriendly space" to create a hostile environment without crossing the boundaries of "free speech" tolerated for long term contributors, but not newcomers. My good advice to newer editors is always to discuss bad faith and nasty aggressive behaviour off-wiki, as it's just not safe to do so on-wiki, unless you are anonymous and happy to throw away your account. These behaviours are normal, expected, and even championed from the top as refreshing expressions of libertarianism.[1] 1. "utter fucking bullshit" https://www.theregister.com/2016/01/27/trust_me_pleads_wikipedia_former_google_man _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
