Link fail. >_< here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2020-10-15 (Sorry for the noise!)
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 8:43 AM Maggie Dennis <mden...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi, Nosebagbear. > > As I said in my first email on the subject (and I said a lot, so I'm not > surprised if it gets missed!), I really can only speak to my part of this - > I work with the Human Rights Team that does on the ground interventions. > The lead of this team has been a substantial input to this process, but the > work in the policy is far more expansive than my part. THAT human rights > intervention is where we have a playbook to which I refer, and although we > don't talk about how, it's not been intended to be a secret that it exists. > I first posted about the team on Meta in 2020 and spoke about it at my > second office hour, here. I believe it has come up in subsequent calls, > and I have mentioned it in each office hour announcement (at least that I > wrote myself). I don't think we can safely talk about HOW we are handling > human rights threats to community members, but it's never been my intention > to downplay that we're working on it! > > I will let the Global Advocacy and Public Policy teams speak to the policy > as a whole. But in terms of the questions you mailed in, I imagine they > received others as well and are working to aggregate them. > > Best, > Maggie > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 7:31 AM <nosebagb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Maggie, >> >> Could you answer a few things, or at least provide your (and the team's) >> reasoning: >> >> 1) It has now been stated multiple times it was urgent to get a policy >> like this. But you tell us there's a secret playbook already in play, and I >> can't imagine that has changed immediately just because there's now a >> visible policy, and with the break shortly occurring, the WMF other teams >> can't really decide major things with it in mind either. And it also took >> some time to (seemingly purely internally) write. So why is it taking so >> long to explain why we're having to wait until after Christmas break to >> discuss it? *Why is it retroactive discussion at all?* >> >> 2) The policy includes the line " use our influence with partners, the >> private sector, and governments to advance and uphold respect for human >> rights." - you say you note the tension from needing to have such a >> playbook be hidden to remain functional and be a collaborative community. >> >> I don't doubt your reasoning on the playbook, but this line is in effect >> "the policy team will lobby for better human rights"...but without us >> knowing the actual execution of methods, specifically raised areas, a >> complete listing of ongoing areas of focus and so on. There is already a >> concern that the WMF spends too much time trying to speak for the movement >> without actually knowing that their specific positions are backed by the >> movement as a whole. Doing it with this dichotomy in place surely seems >> even less wise. >> >> 3) Back, more generally, to the process issues. I emailed shortly after >> this went public, at the time, some considerable time before the Christmas >> break. I just got a message saying they were collating questions and would >> answer in the new year. But most of my questions were on either "why was >> this procedure used" or "why was this paragraph included", rather than >> substantive content change proposals. >> >> If even I know why I included any given thing in a regular old policy >> that I help draft and can thus answer questions rapidly, why was this not >> the case here. Surely the reasoning for each bit of content and failure to >> publicly consult are already known? So why the lag time? >> >> Yours, >> >> Richard (Nosebagbear) >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/UXQONI433PXLVTNG7UCZGR2TJEMJHHV7/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> > > > -- > Maggie Dennis > She/her/hers > Vice President, Community Resilience & Sustainability > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > -- Maggie Dennis She/her/hers Vice President, Community Resilience & Sustainability Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
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