Amir, You say, "it was only 12 were paid more than $100,000 (at least according to the form)."
Part VII of the Form 990 (page 8) states, in line 2 (under the table of highest earners you mention), "Total number of individuals (including but not limited to those listed above) who received more than $100,000 of reportable compensation from the organization – *165*" That is more than half of all employees (actual employees, as opposed to freelancers). Andreas On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 2:29 AM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgr...@gmail.com> wrote: > The $200,000 average salary for each employee is plain wrong. > > If you look at 2019 Form: > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/8/85/Wikimedia_Foundation_2019_Form_990.pdf > In that form, there is a section (Section VII) for the highest paid > employees and requires WMF to report any employee who was paid more than > "$100,000 from the organization and any related organizations". And only 11 > people in all of WMF were paid more than $200,000 in that FY and the > highest paid employee took a little less than $400,000, and in total with > the rest it was only 12 were paid more than $100,000 (at least according to > the form). > > There are lots of complicating factors, including the fact that most WMF > "employees" live outside of the US and thus are hired through the Employer > of Record (EoR) system. So they show up as contractors in the list of staff > and I'm not sure where their expenses show up in Form 990. Staff > compensation gets adjusted to where they live and usually (virtually all > but not sure) it's less than salaries paid in the bay area due to the fact > that simply living in SF (and bay area) is expensive. > > If you combine total expenses of WMF with personnel expenses (~80M) and > divide that to 400 (~ number of staff in 2019), you might get $200,000 per > person but that includes data center expenses, buying hardware expenses, > network expenses, money paid for renting offices, electricity bills of the > dcs and offices, travel expenses, basically anything you can imagine except > grants. > > (In my volunteer capacity, It's weekend) > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 2:38 AM Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't think there is any such source. In another thread, Andreas also >> states that there are over 800 WMF and affiliate employees (which is >> probably true); however, that would mean that *just salaries* would come to >> more than the 2021-22 annual budget.[1] (i.e. - 800 employees x $200,000 >> each = $160 million; 2021-22 budget is $150 million. That is taking the >> smaller number of "over 800 employee" from the other post and "over >> $200,000 per employee" from this one.) While I have no doubt that salaries >> and benefits make up the majority of expenditures in both the WMF itself >> and the WMF and affiliates together, I think these statements are >> exaggerations. >> >> Risker/Anne >> >> >> [1] >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-term_plan_2019/Annual_Plan_2021-2022 >> >> On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 20:04, Alex Monk <kren...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Do you have a source for that number? >>> >>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 20:38, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> As for nobody at Wikimedia profiting off the free content created by >>>> volunteers, that is relative. WMF salary costs currently average over >>>> $200,000 per employee. In most parts of the world, that would be considered >>>> wealthy. A minor issue in the grand scheme of things, certainly, but still >>>> relevant to us here at least. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/AW6WDMV66RGYVAGCKMNYHXVHV5KFNRLK/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/TDLU5RAG57LL74Z65D3DL24WFO6WV6YV/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > -- > Amir (he/him) > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/MAJIC34YZL5TJNJKQQFI2GWYDJJDPQH5/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
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