Thank you Lorenzo for the quick response. In the next steps, I would like to share here what I shared yesterday and in my first email. The one you're proposing are very much like everything we've done in the past. It's creating volunteer bodies that take over the Accountability without having the responsibility.
The request I formulate starts with, even before an action plan, a commitment that the Board still supports more equity in decision making. Equity meaning more spread responsibilities and not only accountabilities. If there's not a shared goal and a will for improving the movement we need it to be stated. Otherwise we're doomed to repeat past mistakes, which is what we all want to avoid I believe :) Have a good day/night -- Christophe On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 at 19:10, Lorenzo <ll...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > *Thank you for organizing the call, and creating a space for discussing > the Wikimedia Foundation Board liaisons reflections and the perspectives on > the movement charter draft.We have heard different requests for changing > the timeline of the ratification vote - asking the board to vote earlier, > or to vote later, or to delay affiliates and community vote, or to have the > affiliates and community vote only if the vote of the board is in favour of > ratification. During yesterday's call, some of these options were mentioned > by the participants, and we were asked to check on the option to delay the > vote. While there was no consensus on the call on any specific option, I > committed to check whether a change in the timeline is feasible and discuss > with MCDC whether it would be the right choice. Clearly, such a decision > must be made extremely quickly, hence the narrow timeline.As promised, I > checked the feasibility of a delay with the Movement Charter Drafting > Committee. All the committee members that have spoken so far, which are the > majority, believe that the process should not be changed, unless there is a > very good reason. This process with the current timeline has been > advertised for several weeks, including posts on various projects, and it > would not be fair to other voters. Nataliia and I support this position. We > are also all in agreement in encouraging participation in the vote, as we > are all interested in getting as much constructive input from the voters as > possible.From an operational capacity perspective, any delay now would also > require postponing other planned movement-wide processes with an impact > that goes beyond the movement charter.Another request that we heard clearly > in the Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network (SWAN) > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Wikimedia_Affiliates_Network> > call was to have a clear commitment from the board on next steps. Having > concrete next steps is part of our recommendation to the board; and more > specifically our recommendation talks about moving forward this year by > shifting some of the functions that have been proposed for the Global > Council to global, community-representing bodies, and iterating over those > models > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Board_liaisons_reflections_on_final_Movement_charter_draft#Wikimedia_Foundation%E2%80%99s_commitment:_what_to_do_irrespective_of_the_outcome_of_the_ratification_vote>. > Just to clarify, our letter contained our reflections and recommendations > as liaisons, with the overall goal to make progress more quickly, and > without undertaking more multi-year-long processes with uncertain > outcomes.We are also in conversation with the MCDC about what would be the > future of the movement charter itself if the currently proposed charter > doesn't pass the ratification. Despite the concerns about the current > draft, we all support the goals intended by a charter. It is not a new > topic for the MCDC, who has been considering scenarios for a long time, but > feels that at this moment MCDC's focus should be on the ratification > vote.To use this opportunity, I just wanted to remind you that the next > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/2024-06-27_Conversation_with_Trustees>Conversation > with the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/2024-06-27_Conversation_with_Trustees> > will be on 27 June at 18:00 UTC (check your local time > <https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1719511200>), and you can use that > opportunity to come, and ask questions. The 90-minute call will take place > on Zoom, with simultaneous > <https://youtube.com/live/DBgOvuMs-UA?feature=share>streaming to YouTube > <https://youtube.com/live/DBgOvuMs-UA?feature=share>, and the recording > will be uploaded to Commons. Please email ask...@wikimedia.org > <ask...@wikimedia.org> to get a link to join the call. You can also request > interpretation or ask any questions ahead of time using the same > address.Lorenzo* > > Il giorno ven, 21/06/2024 alle 22.40 +0200, Wikipedysta Nadzik ha scritto: > > Hello everyone, > > Given the current situation and discussions around the BoT-MCDC liaisons' > statement > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/IH6CY4GSMZB2C3WTWQISUOYUQCKPQS4R/> > about their intention to recommend that the *BoT not ratify the Movement > Charter and still move forward with the community vote*, I decided to > organize the Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network (SWAN) *meeting on 23 > June (THIS SUNDAY) – meeting link on Meta > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Wikimedia_Affiliates_Network/2024_06>* > . > > *T**L;DR – Quick catch-up* > > Board of Trustees liaisons to MCDC (Natalia Tymkiv and Lorenzo Losa) > announced they *will not recommend* the BoT to ratify the charter in its > current form and *will recommend* the development of new concrete and > time-bound next steps to "*evaluate progress*". The reason stated is that > the "*proposed Charter** does not address the significant concerns*" > raised by the Board earlier this year (February > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter/Archive_5#Wikimedia_Foundation_perspectives_on_the_Global_Council> > and May > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Movement_Charter/Archive_5#Wikimedia_Foundation_feedback_on_Movement_Charter_Final_Draft> > ). > > *Each of the 3 voting blocks: community, affiliates, and the BoT needs to > approve the Charter to ratify it*, meaning that each of them has the > power to veto the Charter if they vote against it. > > > *Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network (SWAN) meeting on 23 June* There > are two meeting times to cater to two major time zone blocks. > > The two times are: > > > - *03:00 UTC*, 2024-06-23 (Asia-Pacific friendly time) – Check your > timezone <https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1719111600> > - *16:00 UTC*, 2024-06-23 (Europe-Africa-Americas friendly time) – Check > your timezone <https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1719158400> > > > *The agenda is:* > > - Update on the Movement Charter process > - Discussion on the Wikimedia Foundation statement on the Movement > Charter > - Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard/Board liaisons reflections > on final Movement charter draft > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Board_liaisons_reflections_on_final_Movement_charter_draft> > > *For the signup and meeting link*, go to the SWAN page at Meta-wiki: > > > - > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Wikimedia_Affiliates_Network/2024_06 > > > *The Movement Charter vote is scheduled to start in just 76 hours! Join us > at the discussion.* > > Cheers, > -- > > > Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him) > > Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead > > Wikimedia Europe Board Member > > Wikipedia Administrator > > User:Nadzik <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/HJBGTENOESUXK7YUVVNOKAL5OWS4CO3G/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/4V7BAWBH2MU6S7OW4RUIASTBOPBDVXWZ/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >
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