A few responses; "..I don't think our chapter is capable of producing a grant application.." - sure we've only got 10 days, but I think it's worth a try, and the process of giving it a go would, I feel, be beneficial - does anyone have any ideas whatsoever they'd like any help in preparing a grant app. for - I'm not entirely unfamiliar with such processes, and would be happy to do my best to help here :-) "..Without any attempt to coordinate the various approaches.." - totally agree that we need to coordinate - do you agree that the official wiki is quite a good spot for this? - we probably just need to make sure we talk a bit more over there about things that are ongoing to avoid duplicated efforts etc. - I must say that I'm not really aware of this happening at any significant level at the moment - to a degree it would be a nice problem to have for the chapter! (too many individual efforts happening - I'm not seeing that at the mo) "Thirdly, given your recent conflict...." - ah look, I'm really only interested in helping / joining / encouraging / creating some really good collaborative efforts for WMAU to really get stuck into - it's probably true that some of my wiki broo ha ha-s are pretty silly (the 'dictionary of sydney' thing is another matter, and I really feel you (Andrew) behaved poorly therein - but sleeping dogs 'n spilt milk and all that :-) - I don't really consider myself to be in 'conflict' with anyone (let alone Jimbo!) - when it comes down to it, on a chapter level, I'd really much rather be a follower-along / occasional helper / flag waver than any sort of leader - but I'm afraid whatever leadership is currently ongoing just isn't trickling down to this member currently I'll try and write up my ideas regardless - it's probably high time I did so anyways, so I guess we can see if I can scrub them up to any sort of standard where they might be 'submitable' - any help would be much appreciated :-) cheers, Peter, PM. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Andrew <orderinchao...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > I'll be straight up and state I'm not going to support this, for a variety > of reasons. > > Firstly, I don't think our chapter is capable of producing a grant > application to the standard WMF require for such a big area (education) in > 10 days that addresses all the things WMF expect us to address. > > Secondly, this appears to be trying to reinvent the wheel. Craig's project > up in Brisbane is already making significant advances, at least three other > chapter members have made contacts with (or have been contacted by) > educational departments and representative associations, and completed > resources already in use in schools exist in other languages from other > chapters - I'm presently trying to secure translations of these on behalf of > the chapter. Without any attempt to coordinate the various approaches, we're > not only less effective but also give the outward appearance of being > disorganised to the various educational bodies involved. > > Thirdly, given your recent conflict with, among other people, Jimbo Wales > and various concerns about past occasions when you have undertaken chapter > work (in particular the Dictionary of Sydney episode), I do not think you > personally should be making any outward representation of our chapter and, > if the grant were to be approved, I think someone else should lead it. > > kindest regards > Andrew > > On 5 May 2010 11:46, private musings <thepmacco...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> G'day all, >> >> does the chapter have any grants proposals heading in this year? >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index >> >> Do we have any structure for creating / supporting a chapter grant like >> this? >> >> I have a few ideas and opportunities - for wiki use in education, >> hopefully in partnership with nsw dep. of ed. - if I write something up in >> the next week or so, I suppose we could discuss it on our wiki, and forward >> it to the grants page linked above for consideration if appropriate? >> >> I think it's important for a functioning healthy chapter to try to engage >> with processes like this, so if you too have any ideas or opportunities, >> please do pipe up, and let's work on them on the wiki, and get them going >> :-) >> >> cheers, >> >> Peter, >> PM. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >
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