On 09-Feb-2013, at 1:37 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi wrote: > > I guess it is possible to extend membership criteria for foreign nationals as > well youngsters below 18 years. I know NGO's from Bangalore which accept > memberships from foreign delegates. Is there anything special associated with it? I was a wikipedian first and then became a chapter member, could not renew my membership and renewed membership recently and still a wikipedian. Chapter is to support the communities and not to create members. I'd like to ask what are the benefits for a foreign national to be part of Wikimedia India (which is a country specific chapter) where he/she can be a member of his/her own country? > > Can we expect - new Membership (April-2013 to March 2014) will be available > to everyone by crossing age and nationality barrier? :) > > > > Regards, > Abhishek Suryawanshi, > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Srikanth Ramakrishnan <srik.r...@wikimedia.in> > To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 01:02:34 +0530 > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG? > While the age restriction might be modifiable, I'm not too sure yet, > will have to check with the Karnataka Registrar of Societies, the > Nationality of members has to be Indian as set down by the Ministry of > Home Affairs, Goverment of India. > > On 2/7/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi <i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Arun for clarification. > > > > I can understand difficulty in getting registration. As society > > registration is done, Hope so membership criteria will improve, so more and > > more people can become part of movement. > > > > My query was just to make sure access is available to all irrespective of > > age and nationality barrier! :) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Abhishek Suryawanshi, > > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Arun Ramarathnam <arunra...@gmail.com> > > To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > Cc: > > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 19:53:50 +0530 > > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG? > > > > > > On Feb 2, 2013 7:22 PM, "Abhishek Suryawanshi" < > > i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Why there is 18 age limit to become member of Wikimedia India Chapter? > > > > Dear Abhishek, > > > > I can take that query as one of the folks involved in preparing and > > debating the original MOA clauses of the chapter. > > > > The original intent was to keep membership criteria as open as possible - > > age, citizenship, etc. > > However the advise of the consultant who helped us with the society > > registration was to limit membership to adults and indian citizens based > > on their prior experience with getting these registrations through > > quickly. We were advised that we could later seek permissions for the > > above if the authorities so permitted. > > > > Not with standing these limitations it took the lot of meetings with > > authorities to get the formal registration through. I have attended many > > of these meetings to get due clearance. > > > > Hope that clarifies your query. > > Regards > > Arun > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Abhishek Suryawanshi <i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> > > To: Srikanth Ramakrishnan <srik.r...@wikimedia.in> > > Cc: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 19:21:39 +0530 > > Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG? > > > > Dear Srikanth, > > > > *When I mentioned it is easy to become a member, I meant for Indian > >> citizens.* > >> > > 100 Rupee is membership fee and whether its small amount or large > > amount is different point of view. > > > > > > > > Why there is 18 age limit to become member of Wikimedia India Chapter? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Abhishek Suryawanshi, > > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > > *Srikanth Ramakrishnan* srik.ramk at wikimedia.in > > <wikimediaindia-l%40lists.wikimedia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BWikimediaindia-l%5D%20How%20to%20set%20up%20a%20SIG%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CCAKZFZLu1coq2ts46VsaN4_JOuRtqUUXNU0TNx%2BdRXk_4zw81RA%40mail.gmail.com%3E> > > > > > > > > > > > > Due to legal restrictions only an Indian citizen can become a member of the > > Chapter. > > When I mentioned it is easy to become a member, I meant for Indian > > citizens. > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) <smazeland at > > wikimedia.org > > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>> > > wrote: > > > >>* On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <*>* srik.ramk at > >> wikimedia.in > >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>> > >> wrote:*>**>>* Becoming a member is pretty easy. It costs INR 100 to join > >> and requires a*>>* single form to be filled and sent across.*>**>**>* > >> Actually, it isn't. As Bence is not an Indian citizen over 18 or an > >> Indian*>* institution, he cannot be a member.*>**>* Cheers!*>* --*>* > >> Siebrand*>* _______________________________________________*>* > >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list*>* Wikimediaindia-l at lists.wikimedia.org > >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l>*>* To > >> unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit*>* > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l*>**>** > > > > -- > > Srikanth Ramakrishnan > > Member of the Executive Committee > > Wikimedia Chapter [India] > > > > > -- > Srikanth Ramakrishnan > Member of the Executive Committee > Wikimedia Chapter [India] > > Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter > today<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations> > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Yann Forget <yan...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 01:18:32 +0530 > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] How to set up a SIG? > Hello, > > 2013/2/8 Srikanth Ramakrishnan <srik.r...@wikimedia.in>: > > While the age restriction might be modifiable, I'm not too sure yet, > > will have to check with the Karnataka Registrar of Societies, the > > Nationality of members has to be Indian as set down by the Ministry of > > Home Affairs, Goverment of India. > > Are you really sure about that? I am very surprised. > Most NGO in India accepted membership from foreign residents / expatriates. > I would register to Wikimedia India if possible. > > Regards, > > Yann > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Abhishek Suryawanshi <i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> > To: Srikanth Ramakrishnan <srik.r...@wikimedia.in> > Cc: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:50:15 +0530 > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India needs your support: Our First > Fundraiser > Dear Srikanth, > > It different than asset concept. Its about making process cashless. > For example, Chapter needs xyz amount to manage Travel (For Board > meetings,attending events etc), > > > > > This can be zeroed down by having 'in-kind' Airline or Travel/Hospitality > partner. > i.e instead of providing money to they will offer service/tickets directly, > and this gives them tax exemption under > Corporate Social Responsibility > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_corporate_social_responsibility_in_India) > > > > > By providing cashless service - In return they get branding and exemption > from Government of India. > For company - its easy to provide service as compared to money, If they > provide money - then they have to pay tax. > > > > > > So could you please provide Chapters requirements for next one year? So we > can find donors easily? > What are Chapters plans after receiving donations? If this is crystal clear - > then its easy to attract more > > > > > corporates and individuals to donate. > This is real glitch - There is separate WMF Fundraiser every year, where > Jimmy Wales makes appeal for donation. > People might get confused, Many Indians donate directly to WMF. Is it fair to > ask them to do same again? > > > > > From third person, it looks like - WMF runs donation campaign, then asks > regional chapters to raise money > on their own instead of supporting them. Is there any kind of rejection from > WMF to support Chapter activities > > > > > financially? or Chapters proposed budget is beyond WMF approval? > > Already we have few volunteers to spread Wikimedia mission in India. > Instead of spending volunteers precious energy on raising donations, Its > better to devote same energy to fulfill Wikimedia mission? > > > > > > Just curiosity question : Before announcement - Was there any public > discussion about having 'separate' donation campaign? > Who proposed and approved idea? > > > > > > Clarification about Chapters expected budget and 'exact' financial > requirements will enable easy donations. > > > > > > > > Regards, > Abhishek Suryawanshi, > > > > > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune > > > > > On 2/7/13, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < srik.ramk at wikimedia.in > wrote : > > > > > > > Hello Abhishek, thank you for your suggestion. The 'in-kind' donation > idea, while good actually has a small glitch. Anything that comes to > the Chapter would be considered an asset and be kept in a certain > place physically. Moving it out to a different place becomes a > problem. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. Do spread the word about > our fundraiser though. > > On 2/7/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi <i.abhishek.suryawanshi at gmail.com> wrote: > > Nice initiative. > > > > It would be great to have 'in-kind' donations option along with monetary > > option. > > > > i.e If someone wants to donate projector,room,laptop etc in-kind, It may be > > easy for donor also as well as Chapter to receive it. This will also make > > sure Tax money is saved from both ends. > > > > > > > > Just two cents from my side. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Abhishek Suryawanshi, > > > > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Karthik Nadar <karthikndr at wikimedia.in> > > To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l at lists.wikimedia.org> > > Cc: > > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:19:57 +0530 > > Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India needs your support: Our First > > Fundraiser > > *Dear all,* > > * > > * > > *On the second anniversary of the Chapter, we made public our intention of > > running our first fundraiser. Going ahead with the first phase of this > > plan, we will be running a central site notice on the chapter website for a > > period of two calendar months starting 1 February, 2013. In the second > > phase of this plan, we aim to approach high networth individuals and > > corporates in the month of March 2013. This will be done using personal and > > professional networks of current and past EC members, staff, volunteers > > among others.* > > * > > Suggestions, help and support from the community on what we can do to > > ensure success of this fundraiser are welcome. Every drop counts :) > > > > Donations can be made by Online Bank Transfer (NEFT/RTGS) or by sending us > > a Cheque through snail mail. We are unable to accept card payments at this > > current time. Link to the donation page on our website: > > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate > > > > Thanking you, > > Executive Committee, > > Wikimedia India. > > > > *Reasoning* (From our public statement on 4 January, 2013) > > > > A lot of people may ask why the chapter needs a fundraiser when it has > > access to WMF funding. The answer is, we are still ineligible for FDC of > > WMF (we hope to be eligible for the second round of funding in 2013) and > > would need to rely on grants, spending of which is restricted by the WMF. > > Since formation, the chapter has relied heavily on the Executive Committee > > to take on the burden of running the show. In an ideal world, the EC would > > like to take on the role of guiding the chapter rather than actually be > > responsible for operations after two years of incorporation, which should > > be best done by professionals rather than volunteers in their spare time. > > > > The chapter has hired an employee (Sowmyan Tirumurti, our Executive > > Manager) as well as plans to lease its own office premises in Bangalore. We > > will need the help of those volunteers who are in a position to support us. > > It could be a small individual donation or in the form of a corporate > > donation from an institution. A small token of support from you could go a > > long way in helping us achieving our goals of furthering the movement in > > India.* > > * > > * > > * > > * > > > > -- > > Thanks and regards, > > Karthik Nadar, > > Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter. > > > > > -- > Srikanth Ramakrishnan > Member of the Executive Committee > Wikimedia Chapter [India] > > Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter > today<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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