Those are two different issues of reporting, Satdeep. Anyways, I think that matter has been sorted for now.
Sure, that would be a good way. We can discuss about conflicts in private mail. Abhinav On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:46 PM Satdeep Gill <satdeepg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Documentation and Reporting has generally been an issue. As Subha > mentioned about a lot of footage and no bandwidth to upload, it reminds me > of WCI2018 where we had 500 GB data and could only work around about a 100 > GB of that. > > And yes some communities/volunteers have been doing a lot of great > activities but don't publicize it much and nor do they write blogposts > about the same. I believe this is something where we need some support from > each other. > > @Abhinav srivastava <abhinav...@gmail.com> I believe everyone who was > going to Berlin was invited to attend the event in Bangalore. I do know > about one person not being available during those dates and another one was > refused visa. I might be missing out on something here. > > Regarding disturbed neutrality at my end, I just wanted to say that I am > first a volunteer and then a part-employee and in my view my volunteer > activities (which includes my role in AffCom) are very much different from > my role in the New Readers program. I am happy to discuss more about this > in private email. > > Regards > Satdeep Gill > > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 18:38, Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks. I was just expressing my concerns. >> >> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 6:24 PM Abhinav srivastava <abhinav...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Ashwin Sir, >>> >>> >>> >>> It is a matter of one’s personal privacy. Otherwise, I would have shared >>> the delegate name immediately. This is similar to sharing Bodisattwa’s talk >>> about 2016 Wikimania where I shared the relevant link on his personal >>> email. If anyone is not comfortable then why force and take his name. Yes, >>> 2 lakhs is not the issue but you can see why I had stated so. >>> >>> Anyways, I would like to say, in future if I ever need a help from say >>> Bengali, Punjabi, Oriya community; Bodhisattwa, Satdeep, Subhashish would >>> be the first people to come and offer their support. There is enough good >>> in the Indian community and at times it does not get reflected on the >>> mailing list. 😊 >>> >>> Let me tell you, I am working on a GLAM partnership and nobody else but >>> Satdeep offered me help and support. This happened this Monday itself. >>> >>> Discussions and Debates are just a part of the community interactions. >>> As they say, the democratic process is strengthened more only when you >>> practice it. By practice only we learn, ‘we learn how to be polite’, ‘how >>> to maintain friendly space’, ‘how to be kind etc’. Anyways, If I have been >>> rude, I would like to apologize straight away. >>> >>> >>> >>> @ Subhashish: Thank You For The Positive Message. I am also happy to >>> learn about activities in your User Group. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 5:57 PM Subhashish Panigrahi < >>> psubhash...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Abhinav, I think it's a valid expectation for a public report from any >>>> volunteer in the movement when the donation money is spent. So, please >>>> don't apologize to me. But there are many factors — priorities in life, >>>> time commitment, need for something, and many more that stops one from >>>> being available for post-event documentation. >>>> >>>> Maybe the following would help explain. Our user group tries to >>>> document a lot. To put things into a perspective, our recent-most event, >>>> the 16th anniversary of Odia Wikipedia, has a long and detailed >>>> documentation in Odia (https://or.wikipedia.org/s/1bia) - thanks to >>>> contributors like Sangram Keshari Senapati, Bikash Ojha and many others who >>>> managed to document a lot of valuable portions from the discussions. We >>>> have recorded about 50 Gb of interviews and sessions just during this event >>>> that we now have no bandwidth to edit and upload. It will take a few more >>>> months for us to do that. :) >>>> >>>> As a new user group, we have also supported neighboring communities >>>> like Santali where we interviewed many of the active and new Wikimedians >>>> (almost 50 Gbs of media again) during a workshop that we helped organize >>>> with support from A2K. >>>> >>>> These are just a couple of examples of what we intend to do and how >>>> things turn up differently in reality. Trust me, we really want to document >>>> publicly as much as we can and there are genuine factors that slow many of >>>> us down. But point noted - there is always a room for improvement. I >>>> personally assumed that as there is a Etherpad note that Tito and others at >>>> A2K had created during the two-day meeting, sharing that with the community >>>> was enough. We indeed had a discussion and Sailesh who works at A2K and >>>> other colleagues at our user group can share more about the same. >>>> >>>> Subhashish >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 5:20 PM Abhinav srivastava < >>>> abhinav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Netha, >>>>> >>>>> I had no idea about you neither I am directing at you. This is for >>>>> other Wikimedias residing in India. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for the inconveniences. >>>>> >>>>> Abhinav >>>>> >>>>> On Fri 10 Aug, 2018, 5:18 PM Netha Hussain, <nethahuss...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>> >>>>>> My response to Abhinav's question, just to clarify about my >>>>>> attendance at WMCON 18 : >>>>>> >>>>>> 2.) I am not sure if all those selected by WMF to participate in >>>>>> the Wikimedia Conference 2018 were invited. Are you sure every one of >>>>>> them >>>>>> was invited? I wish to hear. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am an Indian Wikimedian and I was selected by the WMF to >>>>>> participate in Wikimedia Conference 2018. I attended in my capacity as a >>>>>> volunteer and delivered the Diversity statement and led the >>>>>> diversity discussion >>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Documentation/Movement_Strategy_track/Day_2> >>>>>> there. I was not informed about this Bangalore conference conducted by >>>>>> the >>>>>> CIS, and I do not expect to be invited because I live in a different >>>>>> country, and flying me to India would have been very expensive. >>>>>> Additionally, my role in WMCON 2018 was to talk specifically about >>>>>> Diversity, which is not exclusively an India-related topic. I did not >>>>>> represent any affiliate from India, either. >>>>>> >>>>>> The complete list of participants who attended WMCON 18 can be found >>>>>> here >>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Participants%27_List> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Netha >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 13:28, Abhinav srivastava < >>>>>> abhinav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Tanveer and Subhashish, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank You, Tanveer for acknowledging, responding, apologizing and >>>>>>> most importantly assuring on transparency. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I still have a few concerns and I wish to write back. I would >>>>>>> appreciate if I can hear back. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1.) Your proposal also mentions on inviting Experienced Indian >>>>>>> Wikimedians. While, as per your response I do not find any Wikimedian >>>>>>> attending in this category. I would like to record a suggestion. >>>>>>> Bengaluru >>>>>>> is one of the highly populated cities and also comprising a high number >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> migrant populations. In the upcoming events, you can invite Experience >>>>>>> Wikimedians from other languages groups which still do not have a User >>>>>>> Group and are based in Bengaluru. They may not be attending the >>>>>>> Wikimedia >>>>>>> Conference in Berlin, they may not be even from your focused languages. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> idea is very similar to the statement put forward by your organization >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Wikimedia India during the Wiki Conference India, “While some >>>>>>> communities >>>>>>> have dynamic leaders and enough community level activity…….this cannot >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> said for all communities.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2.) I am not sure if all those selected by WMF to participate in >>>>>>> the Wikimedia Conference 2018 were invited. Are you sure every one of >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> was invited? I wish to hear. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3.) Once you complete the Meta page, I would request you to >>>>>>> please share on this thread. I would encourage you and your team to >>>>>>> document as much as you can about your activities on Meta. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4.) It is already to my understanding that the absence of your >>>>>>> communication manager has led to defaults in your newsletter. I would >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> to re-iterate as documented on the other mail thread, Wikimedia >>>>>>> Communities >>>>>>> are voluntary driven, some staff should devote time and keep sharing. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> is just a suggestion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @ Subhashish: Sorry to cross-post a bit from the other thread, I >>>>>>> happened to miss your last message since another message popped in >>>>>>> within >>>>>>> 10 minutes and I couldn’t distinguish. I believe putting comments about >>>>>>> your personal experiences at Wikimedia Movements wasn’t the best >>>>>>> sportive >>>>>>> thing one could do. Since those were put on a public thread, so, on a >>>>>>> public thread, I would like to *apologize*. I still may remain >>>>>>> unconvinced on not having bandwidth, reports and other issues, but, >>>>>>> Yes, I >>>>>>> shouldn’t have brought your personal story. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, I advise Odia User Group to be more active in documenting >>>>>>> about such works on their Meta page and Village Pump. Our communities >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> too big in nature, they often get sorted into two haves – one who >>>>>>> dedicate >>>>>>> more time to the movement and remain known faces amongst each other, >>>>>>> two- >>>>>>> who edit but devote less time to activities but they also put their >>>>>>> contributions. There are numerous such silent editors in every >>>>>>> community. >>>>>>> Please take this only to be a suggestion, no negative remarks here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @Satdeep : I was expecting to hear from you. As Tanveer, points out >>>>>>> on having spent roughly Rs 2 lakhs, this is amount is much more than >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> spent on to endorse a scholarship to Wikimania. But that’s not my >>>>>>> question, I think we should refrain from that on this thread. You were a >>>>>>> part of the conference were no heeds to transparency and reporting was >>>>>>> made >>>>>>> (even the CIS-A2K staff accepts this). Secondly, you hold a chair in >>>>>>> AffCom >>>>>>> and also a WMF staff (yes part-time). I am of the opinion that >>>>>>> neutrality >>>>>>> has somewhere been disturbed at your end. A personal freindly >>>>>>> suggestion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Abhinav >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 3:11 PM Subhashish Panigrahi < >>>>>>> psubhash...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Tanveer for this frank clarification. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Abhinav srivastava <abhinav...@gmail.com>, I didn't check earlier >>>>>>>> that there is a point concerning me. So just a small clarification - my >>>>>>>> point was not to show how A2K organized the event in a non-transparent >>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>> but to share the fact that I was a participant and did not know very >>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>> what went behind organizing the event. Also, I participated in my >>>>>>>> capacity >>>>>>>> of a rep of Odia Wikimedians User Group who happened to live in >>>>>>>> Bangalore >>>>>>>> (so it was logistically cheaper even though we didn't go to WMCON this >>>>>>>> year). For the record, Tanveer did share with me about this factor and >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> second factor — that our UG will be eligible next year to send a rep — >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> inviting me. My participation was not in the capacity of a former >>>>>>>> employee >>>>>>>> of CIS. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subhashish >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 2:59 PM Tanveer Hasan < >>>>>>>> hasanrememb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Abhinav, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please find our responses below: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ==Conference== >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (a) Did CIS-A2K organize a conference/meetup in Bengaluru this >>>>>>>>> summer?: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, we organised a WMCON India 2018 as per our proposal [1] that >>>>>>>>> was submitted to the FDC in March 2017. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (b) How were the delegates selected and which communities were >>>>>>>>> invited? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The delegates were not selected by CIS. Participants >>>>>>>>> invited/selected by WMF to participate in WMCON 2018 [2] in Berlin >>>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>> invited to this meeting. User Group representatives who will be >>>>>>>>> participating in WMCON 2019 (residing in Bangalore) were invited to >>>>>>>>> participate as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (c) For all those communities who were invited (based on your >>>>>>>>> response to part b) was an official notification sent via village >>>>>>>>> pump, >>>>>>>>> mailing list, reaching out to User Group representatives? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As the participants were already selected by another affiliate of >>>>>>>>> WMF, we did not want to reinvent the process and hence sent them >>>>>>>>> personal >>>>>>>>> emails as invite to this conference. We apologise for not sending out >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> event agenda and details about the event on mailing list and village >>>>>>>>> pump >>>>>>>>> of all the Indic communities. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (d) Is there a legitimate reason to be non-transparent in the >>>>>>>>> process? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Our intention was not to be ‘non transparent’, the participant >>>>>>>>> list was put up by WMDE Conference organising team and we invited >>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>> those people whose name featured in the official participant list. >>>>>>>>> Sunil >>>>>>>>> Abraham, Executive Director, CIS and Ananth Subray, Program >>>>>>>>> Associate, A2K, >>>>>>>>> Subhashish Panigrahi, representing Odia User group and Dr. U.B. >>>>>>>>> Pavanaja, >>>>>>>>> representing Karavali Wikimedians User Group were the only >>>>>>>>> participants who >>>>>>>>> were present whose name was not on the Participants list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (e) When a former CIS-A2K staff informed you about not >>>>>>>>> maintaining transparency why was still no heed paid to it (if part d >>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>> question is NO)? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to reiterate that our intention was not to be >>>>>>>>> ‘non-transparent’. A2K team apologises for not sending out adequate >>>>>>>>> information to communities and requisite channels of communication. >>>>>>>>> We will >>>>>>>>> strive to improve our communication with the community for all of our >>>>>>>>> events. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (f) Can reports, learning patterns etc be shared with the >>>>>>>>> community? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is a meta page that had been created but has not been >>>>>>>>> completed. We will priorotise the reporting of this event and revert >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> relevant updates. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (g) How much funds were involved? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We used an approximate amount of INR.2 lakh for this event. Major >>>>>>>>> expenses were incurred in arranging transport and hospitality. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (h) What were the responsibilities of different CIS-A2K staff >>>>>>>>> during the workshop? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Four members of the CIS-A2K team participated in the meeting. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mr. Sunil Abraham, Executive Director was the chief facilitator on >>>>>>>>> Day 1. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tanveer Hasan and Tito Dutta were organisers and co-facilitators >>>>>>>>> for the conversations for both days. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ananth Subray attended the event to coordinate logistics and >>>>>>>>> reimbursements. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ==Reports== >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (a) What has been stopping CIS-A2K to share their monthly >>>>>>>>> reports on the mailing list and their Report Section of Wikimedia >>>>>>>>> Meta? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have defaulted on our newsletter because of the exit of our >>>>>>>>> communications officer. All the reports are updated here [3]. We >>>>>>>>> will also >>>>>>>>> update reports here [4] at the earliest. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (b) Can we hear about the reports, shortly? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We will do our best to update reports by the end of this month. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1]. >>>>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K/Work_plan_July_2017_-_June_2018/Skill_Building_Initiatives#Wikimedia_India_conference_2018 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [2]. >>>>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Participants%27_List >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [3]. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [4]. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K/Reports >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ಭಾನು, ಆಗ 5, 2018 ರಂದು 07:22 ಪೂರ್ವಾಹ್ನ ಸಮಯಕ್ಕೆ ರಂದು Abhinav >>>>>>>>> srivastava <abhinav...@gmail.com> ಅವರು ಬರೆದಿದ್ದಾರೆ: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank You Tito for your mail. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would request you to address the issues within 10 days from >>>>>>>>>> now. This is just a request. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, one of your colleagues and also my friend informed me that >>>>>>>>>> he wanted to reply but his e-mail is being moderated or blacklisted. >>>>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>>>> taken this issue with the mailing list admins and the admins have >>>>>>>>>> looked >>>>>>>>>> into the issue clarifying the said collegeue wasn’t moderated or >>>>>>>>>> blacklisted. In case, any issue still arises, please ping me and I >>>>>>>>>> will do >>>>>>>>>> my best to settle this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank You for writing back. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Abhinav >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 5, 2018, Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Abhinav, >>>>>>>>>>> On behalf of the team, I confirm that we have received your >>>>>>>>>>> questions. Thanks for these questions. >>>>>>>>>>> We have a hectic schedule right now because of few things such >>>>>>>>>>> as CIS (the main institution's) strategy meet, staff transition, >>>>>>>>>>> grant >>>>>>>>>>> report, and some other works. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Transparency and accountability are very important topics. If >>>>>>>>>>> things are not clear for a couple of events, we must work on it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some other member or I'll get back with answers in a few days. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (I am cc-ing Sunil Abraham, ED, of the institution, in this >>>>>>>>>>> email) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> Tito Dutta >>>>>>>>>>> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free >>>>>>>>>>> to remind me over email or phone call. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 13:47, Abhinav srivastava < >>>>>>>>>>> abhinav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends From CIS-A2K, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am bringing up a discussion based on few of the concerns >>>>>>>>>>>> expressed on the other mail thread. I would like to acknowledge on >>>>>>>>>>>> record, >>>>>>>>>>>> the past few years CIS-A2K has reached out to communities (besides >>>>>>>>>>>> Focussed >>>>>>>>>>>> Language Area) much more effectively. I may be the first person to >>>>>>>>>>>> say this >>>>>>>>>>>> publicly but I am sure many more would echo my views here. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now what concerns me and something CIS-A2K already knows, when >>>>>>>>>>>> the community has started acknowledging your work much more, >>>>>>>>>>>> CIS-A2K has >>>>>>>>>>>> been acting as the necessary intervention in times of crisis why >>>>>>>>>>>> transparency is being not paid its due. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I list some of my questions which everyone is already aware of >>>>>>>>>>>> and would request a reply. I would request you to not break the >>>>>>>>>>>> bullet and >>>>>>>>>>>> reply each of them separately. Of course! If you are comfortable. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ==Conference== >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (a) Did CIS-A2K organize a conference/meetup in Bengaluru >>>>>>>>>>>> this summer? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (b) How were the delegates selected and which communities >>>>>>>>>>>> were invited? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (c) For all those communities who were invited (based on >>>>>>>>>>>> your response to part b) was an official notification sent via >>>>>>>>>>>> village >>>>>>>>>>>> pump, mailing list, reaching out to User Group representatives? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (d) Is there a legitimate reason to be non-transparent in >>>>>>>>>>>> the process? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (e) When a former CIS-A2K staff informed you about not >>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining transparency why was still no heed paid to it (if part >>>>>>>>>>>> d of the >>>>>>>>>>>> question is NO)? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (f) Can reports, learning patterns etc be shared with the >>>>>>>>>>>> community? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (g) How much funds were involved? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (h) What were the responsibilities of different CIS-A2K >>>>>>>>>>>> staff during the workshop? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ==Reports== >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (a) What has been stopping CIS-A2K to share their monthly >>>>>>>>>>>> reports on the mailing list and their Report Section of Wikimedia >>>>>>>>>>>> Meta? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (b) Can we hear about the reports, shortly? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> @Satdeep: I could not find any Meta page but I do find a page >>>>>>>>>>>> which is put under-construction and this mentions you. Were you a >>>>>>>>>>>> part of >>>>>>>>>>>> this? If Yes, I am not able to understand, the entire argument you >>>>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>>> posted yesterday about reporting guidelines and transparency. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Only If, You Were A Party to This. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To Everyone, I understand I may be playing the devil’s role >>>>>>>>>>>> here. Some of my close aides have already advised me to stay back >>>>>>>>>>>> since I >>>>>>>>>>>> am damaging my personal reputation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My argument is simple if my personal image promotes >>>>>>>>>>>> inclusiveness and transparency. 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