On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Happy-melon <happy-me...@live.com> wrote: > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Chad" <innocentkil...@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:18 PM > To: "Happy-melon" <happy-me...@live.com>; "Wikimedia developers" > <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Hiding Special:UnwatchedPages > >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Happy-melon <happy-me...@live.com> >> wrote: >>> I assume that you haven't been following the Drama Of The Week on enwiki? >>> In the latest episode, MZMcBride summons down the wrath of the gods by >>> giving a banned editor and prolific Wikipedia critic a list of 20 >>> unwatched >>> biographies; the banned editor uses an army of socks to start a >>> "breaching >>> experiment", vandalising the articles in interesting ways and monitoring >>> how >>> long they remain unreverted; and MZMcBride resigns admin status *again* >>> in >>> the face of a third ArbCom case over the whole issue. >>> >>> I agree with a lot of MZ's reasoning ([1]) about the uselessness of >>> "number >>> of watchers" as a metric for vandal risk. But this is probably the worst >>> time in the past two years to be thinking about opening up >>> Special:UnwatchedPages. >>> >>> --HM >>> >> >> Last time I checked, we're a separate project from enwiki (thank god). >> If we change the software default, we're certainly free to do so. Just >> like enwiki is certainly free to request a config change to re-lock it; >> which I'd expect they'd do. >> >> -Chad >> > > We are indeed, and we can do whatever we like to the software defaults. But > changing config settings on WMF wikis is a whole different kettle of fish, > and that's what we're really talking about here. Changing things on a whim > and then requiring communities to build a consensus **to change them back** > is not how we generally approach site configuration. > > --HM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >
Of course. And the WMF can of course set its own defaults apart from the software defaults. My original point of agreeing with the new setting was in view of MediaWiki as a whole, not what some communities might want. I would expect that if we changed this in core, WMF would set a default on their end setting it to sysop-only, as it is now. The projects should not see a change in config like that against their wishes, we agree on that point :) -Chad _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
