On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Roan Kattouw <roan.katt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> * Shut down #wikimedia-dev (formerly #wikipedia_usability, kind of). >> The explicit purpose of the channel is to allow development discussion >> with less noise, but "noise" here means community involvement. In >> community development, you do get a lot more discussion, but that's >> not something you should try avoiding. In general, use existing >> discussion fora wherever possible, and if you do fragment them, make >> sure you don't have too much of a staff-volunteer split in which fora >> people use. > No, "noise" means bots and people trying to support people with > questions like "how do I disable anon reads on my wiki" as opposed to > developers (paid and unpaid alike) being engaged in a design > discussion. Maybe #wikimedia-dev should be renamed to #mediawiki-dev > to remove the suggestion of WMF-exclusivity, but I definitely see the > value of a channel dedicated to communication between developers with > support questions and bots kept out.
As I've said elsewhere to people, this isn't an excuse for fracturing the discussion. Using a single channel for development *and* support has worked for *years* until the Usability Initiative decided it needed its own channel. The channel is not actually that busy if you don't count the bots. And for those of you who *really* don't like them, you can /ignore them. I don't consider people asking for help "noise" either, it's part of being engaged with the community. I don't see the need for a separate development channel at all. -Chad _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
