I had no idea that usurping an open source project was as easy as not 
providing full history back-ups and image dumps. And here I was trying 
to replace all the board members with proxies from Wikia! What a waste 
of time ;)

Ryan Kaldari

On 9/8/10 2:15 PM, Jamie Morken wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was involved in an open source project that was usurped by one of the main 
> developers for the sole reason of making money, and that project continues 
> now to take advantage of the community to increase the profit of that 
> developer.  I never would have thought such a thing was possible until I saw 
> that happen.  If that developer wasn't acting greedy, there would now be open 
> source hardware for radio transceivers of all types, but instead there is 
> only open source software for radio of all types.  I find it a shame, and 
> when I was working on that project I could *feel* it being usurped!  I 
> unfortunately may be paranoid as I feel the same thing here with the 
> wikimedia foundation usurping wikipedia.  If you don't believe me, just 
> consider that it is a very gradual process, like getting people used to not 
> being able to download image dumps anymore, and ignoring ALL requests to 
> restore this functionality.  Also failing to provide full history backups of 
> the flagship wiki.  These two facts allow the wikimedia foundation to 
> maintain the control of intellectual property that wasn't created by the 
> people.  If you want the wikimedia foundation to respect you as volunteers, 
> you will have to DEMAND respect by making sure that they never usurp the 
> project.  I think the best way to do this is to make sure we can all download 
> up to date full history with images wikipedia's so a fork at any time is 
> possible.  Sure it may be paranoid, but trust me it is worth it to be 
> paranoid regarding a project as important as wikipedia.  I have been in 
> situations like this before, I wish I had acted before even if I was wrong!  
> I wouldn't even be speaking now except for reading the heart-felt words of 
> volunteers in this thread that are unhappy with how the wikimedia foundation 
> is running.  We need to organize to get wikimedia foundation to release 
> images tarballs, they are only ignoring multiple requests to do so, so far.
>
> cheers,
> Jamie
>
>
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