Aryeh Gregor wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Paul Houle <p...@ontology2.com> wrote:
>>     Of all the code I've seen,  the Mediawiki code seems to be one of
>> the most difficult code bases to make simple changes in.  When I had to
>> change the template of a mediawiki once,  the easiest answer I found was
>> to put a proxy server in front of it,  drop out the original template
>> and spit the body text into a new template.  (That said,  this was a
>> system I already had on the shelf that worked wonders for all sorts of
>> commercial crapware)
> 
> What do you mean by "change the template of a mediawiki"?  Do you mean
> templates in the MediaWiki sense, as in pages that can be transcluded
> into other pages?  Or do you mean the skin?  Skin HTML can usually be
> changed by just grepping a relevant class or id and editing some raw
> HTML, or a pretty simple wrapper layer.  It can't be changed without
> hacking the code, so it's certainly a lot harder than in most popular
> web apps, but I'm pretty sure you can do it more easily in almost all
> cases than by postprocessing the HTML output.

Seems a Usability failure at developer users level.
The proxying solution is completely wrong, yet WMF did it, too.
And looking at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning it isn't
friendly unless you already know what's it about.


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