On 30 December 2010 09:07, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 30 December 2010 11:06, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote:
> > Tim Starling wrote:
>
> >> OK, if you want a real answer: I think if you could convince admins to
> >> be nicer to people, then that would make a bigger impact to
> >> Wikipedia's long-term viability than any ease-of-editing feature.
> >> Making editing easier will give you a one-off jump in editing
> >> statistics, it won't address the trend.
>
> > Given that there are about 770 active administrators[2] on the English
> > Wikipedia and I think you could reasonably say that a good portion are
> not
> > mean, is it really quite a few people who are having this far-reaching
> > impact that you're suggesting exists? That seems unlikely.
>
>
> There is some discussion of how the community and ArbCom enable
> grossly antisocial behaviour on internal-l at present. Admin behaviour
> is enforced by the ArbCom, and the AC member on internal-l has mostly
> been evasive. It's not clear what approach would work at this stage;
> it would probably have to get worse before the Foundation could
> reasonably step in.
>
>

Perhaps if communication actually took place with Arbcom itself, rather than
on a list in which there is no Arbcom representative, there might be a
better understanding of the concerns you have mentioned.  There's no "Arbcom
representative" on internal-L, and in fact this is something of a bone of
contention.

Nonetheless, I think the most useful post in this entire thread has been Tim
Starling's, and I thank him for it.


Risker
(who is coincidentally an enwp Arbitration Committee member but is in no way
an Arbcom representative on this list)
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