GPL v2+ already includes v3, so people wanting to use MediaWiki under v3 already can without us needing to do anything about it. As such, I don't see the point of making contributions going forwards v3-only. I don't particularly care either way, but I vote for the easier route of maintaining the status quo since that already includes v3 (or even v2 if the user needs that for some reason).
I'm also strongly opposed to AGPL due to the insane requirements it puts on users. As mentioned before, it kills off any and all corporate users that want to code any custom bits for their wiki, but it also kills off a lot more than that: depending on if extensions/skins are considered derivative works (Wordpress certainly believes they are iirc), any wiki that makes a custom skin to help them stand out would now have to release the source of said skin, which rather defeats the point. > On Feb 8, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Regarding AGPL: please no > > That would not just kill nearly all commercial usage of mediawiki, but > it would also introduce insane requirements to most of small wiki > maintainers who would have to start distributing the source code of > their customized wikis to public somehow + in case they wouldn't be > good php programmers and made some security bugs in software > themselves, they would make it much easier for hackers to find them. > >> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I don't really understand if apple provides their OS for free, why >> they can't create a lightweight version that would run in virtual box, >> for open source developers only... But that's their choice. Let's go >> back to original topic. GPL v 3 is a good idea :) I am just not sure >> if you don't need permissions from other developers who contributed >> the code in order to change the license. >> >>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> TBH as open source developer I don't feel like publishing kernel >>> sources makes it any easier for me to create applications for their >>> platform. >>> >>> If I want to create an application for android, I can download android >>> studio and run it on Windows, Linux or Mac. The studio itself is open >>> source and programs are easy to package. >>> >>> If I want to create an application for iPhone, I have to own a Mac, >>> because even if I wanted to buy OS only and install it on non-apple >>> hardware, it wouldn't work and xcode is not available for any other >>> platform than Mac. This is blocker for any open source developer who >>> wants to create non-profit software and isn't willing to put money >>> into something that is never gonna be useful for them, so that they >>> can create software that others can freely use. >>> >>> This is case of all apple products, even if I wanted to create a >>> program for Windows, which is commercial platform, I can easily do >>> that on linux and compile with mingw compiler that can build .exe >>> files on linux. But in case of apple you can only dream of that. >>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Antoine Musso <hashar+...@free.fr> wrote: >>>> Le 08/02/2015 15:26, Petr Bena a écrit : >>>>> What can I say, I always had a feeling that apple hates open source >>>>> and likes to block open source devs in all possible ways, this just >>>>> ensures me in this feeling. One more reason for me to be happy not to >>>>> have to work with their products. >>>> >>>> You have wrong feelings really: http://opensource.apple.com/ >>>> >>>> Even the kernel (XNU) is published under an open source license: >>>> >>>> http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/ >>>> >>>> FSF's Opinion of the Apple Public Source License (APSL) 2.0 >>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.en.html >>>> >>>> >>>> The AppStore terms of service is not compatibe with GPLv2 since they >>>> restrict distribution and use in addition of the GPLv2 restrictions. So >>>> it is not surprising that Apple acts as a good citizen by respecting the >>>> license and thus preventing people from adding GPLv2 apps. They just >>>> make sure the license is respected. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Antoine "hashar" Musso >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>>> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
