I share your opinion, but: back to topic, please :)

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[mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Petr Bena
Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Februar 2015 17:56
An: Wikimedia developers
Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

I don't really understand if apple provides their OS for free, why they can't 
create a lightweight version that would run in virtual box, for open source 
developers only... But that's their choice. Let's go back to original topic. 
GPL v 3 is a good idea :) I am just not sure if you don't need permissions from 
other developers who contributed the code in order to change the license.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> TBH as open source developer I don't feel like publishing kernel 
> sources makes it any easier for me to create applications for their 
> platform.
>
> If I want to create an application for android, I can download android 
> studio and run it on Windows, Linux or Mac. The studio itself is open 
> source and programs are easy to package.
>
> If I want to create an application for iPhone, I have to own a Mac, 
> because even if I wanted to buy OS only and install it on non-apple 
> hardware, it wouldn't work and xcode is not available for any other 
> platform than Mac. This is blocker for any open source developer who 
> wants to create non-profit software and isn't willing to put money 
> into something that is never gonna be useful for them, so that they 
> can create software that others can freely use.
>
> This is case of all apple products, even if I wanted to create a 
> program for Windows, which is commercial platform, I can easily do 
> that on linux and compile with mingw compiler that can build .exe 
> files on linux. But in case of apple you can only dream of that.
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Antoine Musso <hashar+...@free.fr> wrote:
>> Le 08/02/2015 15:26, Petr Bena a écrit :
>>> What can I say, I always had a feeling that apple hates open source 
>>> and likes to block open source devs in all possible ways, this just 
>>> ensures me in this feeling. One more reason for me to be happy not 
>>> to have to work with their products.
>>
>> You have wrong feelings really: http://opensource.apple.com/
>>
>> Even the kernel (XNU) is published under an open source license:
>>
>>  http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/
>>
>>  FSF's Opinion of the Apple Public Source License (APSL) 2.0  
>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.en.html
>>
>>
>> The AppStore terms of service is not compatibe with GPLv2 since they 
>> restrict distribution and use in addition of the GPLv2 restrictions.  
>> So it is not surprising that Apple acts as a good citizen by 
>> respecting the license and thus preventing people from adding GPLv2 
>> apps. They just make sure the license is respected.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Antoine "hashar" Musso
>>
>>
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