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2015. 2. 21. 오후 5:56에 "Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada" <emi...@gmail.com>님이 작성:

> 2015-02-21 8:45 GMT+01:00 Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Is it necessary to request deletion of a local user page in order to get
> > the global page to be automatically transcluded?
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> It seems so. In my case, I created years ago a lot of redirects to my
> English userpage from many Wikipedia languages, and now I have to request
> the deletion for all them. Not very useful.
>
> Can we get a special bot task in meta to request userpage deletion in
> batches?
>
>
> > *This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of
> > our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water
> we
> > must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in
> > which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad
> > fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do
> not
> > know.*
> >
> > *—Catherine Munro*
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:17 PM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Erwin Dokter wrote:
> > > >On 20-02-2015 18:22, Dan Garry wrote:
> > > >> The feature is currently deployed and working. Simply set up your
> > > >>userpage
> > > >> on Meta, and it'll display on all other wikis! :-)
> > > >
> > > >After having played with it a bit, I must conclude there is one major
> > > >shortcoming.
> > > >
> > > >I like to list my subpages locally, but that is not possible with a
> > > >global page.
> > >
> > > I think what you're saying here is that if your global user page
> contains
> > > "{{Special:PrefixIndex/User:Example}}", this transclusion will expand
> in
> > > the context of the global wiki, not in the context of the local wiki.
> > >
> > > >The most annoying thing is that once you create the local
> > > >user page, the global one is gone forever... until you can get a local
> > > >admin to delete the local copy again.
> > > >
> > > >It would be much more practical if this worked like Commons
> description
> > > >pages, where one can *add* content to the local description pages in
> > > >addition to the trancluded page.
> > >
> > > Gone forever seems a bit hyperbolic. :-)  The use-case being solved
> here
> > > most directly is "I don't want to create my user page or a pointer to
> my
> > > user page on over 800 wikis." I think the append model is interesting
> to
> > > consider, but I think it would likely need to be opt-in, perhaps via
> > > interwiki transclusion.
> > >
> > > >I also don't know why the system is so inflexible in that only one
> wiki
> > > >can act as the global home wiki. I know there are issues with the home
> > > >wiki flag, but another approach could be in the form of using
> > > >{{meta:user:Edokter}}, which could point to any project.
> > >
> > > Right, you're basically suggesting interwiki transclusion here. This is
> > > definitely a hard problem to solve, for the context reason alone.
> > >
> > > In discussing global user pages, someone privately criticized the
> > > implementation with basically the same theme of what you're saying
> here.
> > > Namely, that global user pages are only solving a narrow use-case and
> > that
> > > the more generalized problem of easy content distribution/re-use still
> > > needs to be addressed. I definitely agree, but here's why I pushed this
> > > project forward and why I'm happy with where we're headed:
> > >
> > > 1. Perfect is the enemy of the done. We have global user pages today.
> If
> > a
> > >    better approach for global user pages comes along in the future, we
> > can
> > >    switch to using that instead, for sure.
> > >
> > > 2. We're working on a more generalized solution:
> > >    <
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Shadow_namespaces
> > > >.
> > >    Nemo also pointed me toward <
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66474
> > >
> > >    which may interest you.
> > >
> > > Please share your thoughts and feedback on the wiki or in Phabricator
> or
> > > on this mailing list. I think there's consensus that we have a pattern
> of
> > > a problem that we want to solve and any help poking and prodding at
> ideas
> > > for solutions to this problem would be most welcome.
> > >
> > > MZMcBride
> > >
> > >
> > >
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