According to my listening of that Metrics meeting, it does seem like WMF is going to have to pay Yandex for using its service. But as you say, that doesn't infect the actual translation text, which goes into wikipedia and extends the free content available for everyone. --scott
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 3:31 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Legoktm <legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 07/02/2015 12:55 PM, Legoktm wrote: >>> On 07/01/2015 06:50 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: >>>> Il 02/07/2015 03:28, Legoktm ha scritto: >>>>> I noticed: "Yandex coming up soon!" under ContentTranslation. Are there >>>>> more details about what this means? >>>> >>>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89844 I think >>> >>> Thanks for the pointer. After some more digging, I found >>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Talk:Content_translation/Specification/Yandex_backend>. >>> >>> So it appears that ContentTranslation will be contacting a third-party, >>> closed source service? Are users going to be informed that this is the >>> case? What data is being sent? >>> >> >> It appears[1] this has quietly gone ahead without any response here, >> which is disappointing. >> >> [1] >> https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Content_translation/Documentation/FAQ&diff=1935992&oldid=1780766 > > As the user is isolated from the communication with Yandex , I don't > see it as a huge problem. Using Qualtrics seems to be a much more > serious problem, and nobody seems to care about that. > > Yandex is sort of similar to a "MP4 upload only" support, only without > the patent concerns. Relying on it comes at the risk that the service > stops, but the free content created is not infected. More likely, > Yandex will start asking WMF for money, and WMF decides to pay because > it is 'easier' than terminating using the service. > > Anyway, I've added it to > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_source > > -- > John Vandenberg > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- (http://cscott.net) _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
