The best way we can invest in Firefox is via open web technology such as
push notifications imo.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 at 16:51 Max Semenik <maxsem.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 to that. Additionally, the proposed method wouldn't even work because we
> blacklist crappy browsers from receiving JS.
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:37 PM, bawolff <bawolff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Legoktm <legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > This was something that came up during "The Big Open" at Wikimania,
> when
> > > Katherine Maher talked with Ryan Merkley (CEO of Creative Commons) and
> > > Mark Surman (ED of Mozilla Foundation). One of the themes mentioned was
> > > that our projects need to work together and support each other.
> > >
> > > In that vein, I'm interested in what people think about promoting
> > > Firefox to users who are using legacy browsers that we don't support at
> > > Grade A (or some other criteria). As part of the "drop IE8 on XP"
> > > project[1] we're already promoting Firefox as the alternative option. I
> > > was imagining it could be a small and unobtrusive bubble
> > > notification[2], similar to those that Google pushes Chrome on people
> > with.
> > >
> > > If users use modern browsers, they're going to have better security
> > > support, and most likely a better experience browsing Wikimedia sites
> > > too. We'd be improving the web by reducing legacy browsers, and
> allowing
> > > us to move forward with newer technology sooner (ideally).
> > >
> > > And we'd be supporting a project that is ideologically aligned with us:
> > > Mozilla.
> > >
> > > Thoughts, opinions?
> > >
> > > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147199
> > > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bubble_notifications
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -- Legoktm
> > >
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> > I'm concerned this would be seen as an inapropriate bias.
> >
> > Suggesting Firefox for IE8 on XP makes sense because it is basically
> > the only option for that platform that is reasonably secure and not
> > super obscure. Promoting firefox is general for legacy browsers seems
> > like a slippery slope to me.
> >
> > Additionally, I think this is more a political than a technical
> > decision, and one that would require consultation with the general
> > Wikimedia community (e.g. Meta RFC).
> >
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> > Brian
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