If it works well then yes, it's a very good thing that they finally realised their errors. However, it doesn't change the fact that they may still restrict downloads of reinstalled products even when it isn't the user's own fault that they have to re-download. You say the package is only 20MB in size but I wonder whether that is the complete thing, or whether it goes and re-downloads stuff from the Internet as it used to do when installing. I may try it in a test environment just to see what happens. I'm not doubting your word, I just want to try it for myself out of curiosity to see if it really has changed for the better. I'm certainly not being a stick-in-the-mud and I certainly will give credit where it's due. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and I would like to try a slice of it before passing summary sentence, as they say. :)
On 20 Jan 2013, at 15:54, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: I certainly have looked at the processes yes, actually I was challenged! to look at this new version as - like you - I hadn't had pleasant experiences with the product. Like everything else, things change and I'm very glad Sumantec got their act together. On 21/01/2013, at 2:14 AM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > When you say it's not as resource-hungry, have you actually looked at the > processes or are you saying that on your system it's quite fast? I'm still > not convinced that a change from Vipre Internet 2013, for example, would > bring any benefits. > > On 20 Jan 2013, at 10:35, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yep, those problems were "Then", a lot of changes. > > The whole Norton Utilities package is around 20MB and its not resource hungry > as it used to be. > > > On 20/01/2013, at 6:56 PM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The problems I have with Norton Utilities are: >> 1. They are incredibly resource-hungry >> >> 2. Symantec is not at all user-friendly in terms of support. >> >> 3. Their download policy of products which you purchase is disgusting. >> Even if you have the base level install utility, if you suffer a system >> crash, after a certain period of time you cannot download the product you >> bought any more, so bang goes your installation. >> >> That, in my view, is not the right way to treat your customers. In view of >> this last problem in particular, I stay away from Symantec's software >> products. >> >> Of course, Symantec is taking over the world in terms of security products >> in general. For instance, they hav recently acquired two certificate >> signing authorities, GeoTrust being one of them. GeoTrust is the second >> largest provider of security signing products behind Verisign. Thaut, >> (think I spelled that correctly) is the third largest. GeoTrust's >> operations, thank goodness, have not changed, and their technical support is >> still excellent. That's why we continue to use that company for our SSL >> signing products. However, I am continually watchful as I will change to >> another non-Symantec owned company if the support policies change. >> >> Anyway, back to the topic under discussion. Naturally it's always >> interesting to hear about people's experience of these things, and if the >> product has changed in terms of its interaction with other products and with >> the operating systems, so much the better. it is also true to say that one >> can make a system level backup these days, so if the system breaks it should >> be easy to roll it back and not have to worry about the downloading of the >> software. So yes, that assertion could be slightly superfluous now. >> However, speaking from a personal perspective, we have a lifetime license >> for another product and it really couldn't be much better to be honest. It >> doesn't keep popping up with needless windows as some other products of its >> kind do. It just sits there and gets on with its job. So, Norton would >> have to be blazingly good for me personally to consider switching. >> >> >> On 19 Jan 2013, at 14:44, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> Its been a while since I've played with any versions of Norton Utilities, I >> think its been a good 10 years in fact. >> >> I was sent a trial of Norton Utilities 15, its installed on one of my >> Windows PC's and I'm very happy to report that the software seems quite >> accessible. >> >> No, you can't use the Tab key to get around but you can use your WE Cursor >> or the JAWS cursor etc to navigate the screen and find out what all the >> options, functions and settings are, as you move you'll hear brief help >> messages pertaining to each function you move to. >> >> Will I buy Norton Utilities 15? 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