Simon,

While I can't speak definitively about the Cisco solution, I can tell you about 
Emory's Aruba installation.  The Aruba and Cisco architectures are similar (but 
with some significant differences).

We now have over 1400 APs and 21 controllers - all Aruba.  I'm a big proponent 
of the centralized architecture of Aruba or Cisco (or others in the 
marketspace) for any wireless installation of over a handful of APs because of 
the benefits it provides over thick APs.  These benefits fall roughly into 3 
categories: management, security, and user experience.

Here are just some examples in each category -

Management: I can see and manage the entire system on one console.  I can tell 
if an AP is up or down, how many users are on it, etc.  An also upgrade 
firmware for all APs and controllers in under 2 hours, with limited 
interruptions to users during the upgrade.  Deploying APs is as simple as 
setting  location code and connecting it to the network - the AP gets its 
address via DHCP, looks up its controller via DNS, and connects to its 
controller to get its configuration.  I can add or delete SSIDs or change 
configuration on as many or few of the APs as needs dictate in less than a 
minute. New SSID on all APs? - done - no problem!  One wireless infrastructure 
can support many different wireless networks (guest, voice, etc).

Security: Since all wireless traffic is tunneled back to the controller 
(Aruba/Cisco - Trapeze is different), I can apply ACLs or firewall rules for 
wireless at the controller.  With Aruba, I can apply different firewall rule 
sets based on authentication (device, user, etc).  I can build a very secure 
wireless infrastructure that is easily adaptable to whatever security needs we 
need on our various wireless networks.  The wireless network is now more secure 
than the wired network because of the role-based access control that can be 
applied to users.

User Experience:  Two words - Ubiquitous roaming.  Users can roam across campus 
and not lose connectivity (assuming wireless coverage exists).  The controllers 
take care of the mobile IP stuff without the need to load a mobile IP client on 
the users' computer.  With Aruba, I can even load-balance users across subnets 
(we use class C subnets -24 of them - for all of our wireless users).  A user 
gets an IP address and keeps it for as long as they are active - no matter 
where they roam across campus.  I can easily scale the system, too - adding 
subnets as needed quickly at the controller, as opposed to adding subnets in 
the buildings where the APs are.  We needed to do this during our Move-in 
weekend last year when our wireless usage grew to over double what we saw the 
previous spring.

Without the centralized architecture, there is no way Emory's wireless network 
could have grown to its current size and still be manageable.  There is A LOT 
of value in the centralized architecture.

 >>-> Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP
      Emory University
      Network Communications Division
      404.727.0226
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-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Kissler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] LWAPP [was: [WIRELESS-LAN] Upgrade 1200 to lwapp]

Okay, so I've been trying to figure this out and figured I may as well ask. 
Where is the cost benefit of the using the controllers and LWAPPs.
The controllers aren't cheap and the APs don't get cheaper even though
they are "light" ?   I assume there are some management benefits in this
kind of solution, but have you found them to be worth the money ?  Are there 
other benefits that aren't as obvious to me that are ?

I like the idea of making management easier and just like any technologist like 
shiny new toys, but in the context of overall funding priorities with aging 
network equipment in places and other challenges find it hard to justify since 
our APs mostly just work and require little touching beyond initial config and 
occasional firmware upgrades.
What about this am I missing ?

-Simon



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