I completely agree with your comments about the limitations. We also
have special-purpose WLANs. As Phil mentions, the WLAN override design
is seriously flawed. We approached Cisco last year about this issue and
we requested that it be redesigned. But I don't see it changing any time
soon.

 

I know this has been mentioned before, but I encourage everybody to
contact your Cisco rep and "nag" (sorry, I don't have a better word)
them about this and all the other problems that we encounter with their
product. That's the only way we can put pressure on them to make the
necessary changes we need in a timely fashion. With every revision that
comes out, there seems to be more open caveats than there are resolved.
I can tell you that my rep has nightmares about me. I send him an email
about once a month.

 

Thanks, 

 

Hector Rios

Louisiana State University

 

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] <SPAM> RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a
WiSM question

 

Hi Hector,

 

"One way to get around this is to define all your SSIDs in all of your
controllers so that the APs never lose their configs. " 

 

The implication here is that now the SYSTEM only supports 16 SSIDs, not
each AP- huge limitation. 

 

We have primary and secondary controllers for each AP defined, and
manage what goes where. We have small groups of APs (like 2, or 16
depending on the application) that have special-purpose use and unique
IDs. Then all other APs get our "common use SSIDs". But to apply the
special use SSIDs only to the few APs that need them they have to be
pushed to all APs, then deselected on the ones that shouldn't have these
SSIDs with WLAN override. (and rebooted). 

 

When we loose SSIDs, it's never  the special-purpose ones- it's the
general use SSIDs that do  have interfaces and like profiles on all
controllers.

 

-Lee Badman

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question

 

I found out a couple of things. First, there seems to be a bug that
causes this problem if the WLAN profile name and the WLAN SSID name are
not the same. So just make sure those names are exactly the same.
Second, and most exiting, APs download configuration from controllers
they join. If you have an AP on controller X with SSIDs A and B and WLAN
override on and the AP joins another controller with different SSIDs,
the AP will lose its configuration. So when the AP goes back to
controller X, your WLAN override settings are lost. Pretty fancy. One
way to get around this is to define all your SSIDs in all of your
controllers so that the APs never lose their configs. But we all know
how practical that is.

 

Hector Rios

Louisiana State University

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:18 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question

 

One more question on WiSMs, to check my own sanity. I'm starting to see
what appears to be a trend. Where I have WLAN override selected and
applied and in use for a while with no issues, it seems that randomly
SSIDs are either dropping from the list of selected SSIDs and need to be
reapplied, or are in the list and selected, but not actually being
transmitted and require a reboot to get them to behave again. Is like
config is partially lost. I have seen this around a dozen times over the
last several months, not tied to any specific controller or WLAN, just
feels a bit indiscriminate.

 

Anyone else getting this condition?

 

Lee H. Badman

Wireless/Network Engineer

Information Technology and Services

Syracuse University

315 443-3003

 

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