When I say "Airport" I'm talking about the cable/modem router. For some reason Apple seems to refer to the wireless Nics on the laptops as well as the AP's as an "Airport." (They are just in their own little world.) But in any case, I'm only talking about devices that do not behave as clients.
Pete M. ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:14 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's They don't interfere if they're a client on the network. -Chris Murphy On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:58 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problem is they still interfere at the radio level. If they are on the same channel as the local AP they are going to interfere. Pete M. ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:42 AM To: <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's Is there some particular issue you have with devices like the Airport? Given it's 802.11 based and doesn't need to run in AP mode when used to stream audio, is there some other problem you're seeing? -Chris Murphy On 8/25/08 8:40 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired routers to make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect does a pretty good job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP Phones etc? The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless devices that don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort using them strictly for their wireless speakers. Pete Morrissey ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what they call "NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does not match the gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a message stating the following: ================= You are connected to the network through an unapproved device To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into the network through the port in your room, or be connected to the official campus wireless network. The official Gordon wireless networks include: .... ================= The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not allowed (and don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the rogue wireless signal. This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which we also prohibit). -Mike From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's? Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year? We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging to control the rogues in our dorms. Pete Morrissey Syracuse University ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at <http://www.educause.edu/groups/> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at <http://www.educause.edu/groups/> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at <http://www.educause.edu/groups/> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
