Interesting thread..
So, how to we nudge/convince clients to set up the Airport Express base
station as a wireless client when being used to stream audio or act as a
printserver?
My experience with the Timecapsule is that it comes out of the box in a
frenzy, assumes you couldn't possible have an existing wireless network,
and proceeds to set up shop as a base station.
Can all Apple products be configured to act as wireless clients on
existing wireless networks? As someone else mentioned, an Apple device
in wireless-client mode is not an interfering device, only an Apple
device acting as an AP.
Mike
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Chris Murphy wrote:
From the conversation I’ve been assuming people were talking about the
Airport Express base station, as early on the comment was made that
people were using them to stream audio, and the Express is the item in
the Airport family that has that capability. While it can be used in an
access point/router mode, it can also be setup as a wireless client when
being used to stream audio or act as a printserver.
-Chris
On 8/25/08 12:04 PM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
When I say “Airport” I’m talking about the cable/modem router. For
some reason Apple seems to refer to the wireless Nics on the laptops
as well as the AP’s as an “Airport.” (They are just in their own
little world.) But in any case, I’m only talking about devices that
do not behave as clients.
Pete M.
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They don't interfere if they're a client on the network.
-Chris Murphy
On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:58 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
The problem is they still interfere at the radio level. If they
are on the same channel as the local AP they are going to interfere.
Pete M.
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Is there some particular issue you have with devices like the
Airport? Given it’s 802.11 based and doesn’t need to run in AP
mode when used to stream audio, is there some other problem
you’re seeing?
-Chris Murphy
On 8/25/08 8:40 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" < <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow
wired routers to make games, Tivo’s, Clingboxes easier. I know
SafeConnect does a pretty good job ID’ng a lot of the games, but
how do you deal with Tivo’s, Slingboxes, IP Phones etc?
The other challenge we’re having is that we are seeing wireless
devices that don’t use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone
with an AirPort using them strictly for their wireless speakers.
Pete Morrissey
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*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's
Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP’s by using
what they call “NAT Detection”. If the gateway of the students
computer does not match the gateway of the network, their IP
(external one of the rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a
message stating the following:
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You are connected to the network through an unapproved device
To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly
into the network through the port in your room, or be connected
to the official campus wireless network.
The official Gordon wireless networks include:
….
=================
The students see this message, and learn that the devices are
not allowed (and don’t work), they then unplug them, getting rid
of the rogue wireless signal.
This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers
(which we also prohibit).
-Mike
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*Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's
Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP’s?
Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?
We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also
constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very
challenging to control the rogues in our dorms.
Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University
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