Uhm, last I checked we have a box of broken 1142s. Everyone's APs fail. But rumors of heat related failure versus actual failure rate are just that. Rumors. I could easily start rumors regarding the "auto" radio reset and failure rate of some 1142 APs.
--- Justin Hao j...@austin.utexas.edu University of Texas ITS - Networking On Apr 11, 2010, at 8:24 PM, "Jeffrey Sessler" <j...@scrippscollege.edu> wrote: > Lifetime warranty is great, but it still costs time/money to have an > IT > staff member mount/dismount the AP and send it back for replacement. > All > things being equal, I'd rather mount the AP once, and the next time I > visit it will be when it is life-cycled and replaced with the latest > standard. > > Jeff > >>>> Todd Lane <t...@email.unc.edu> 4/11/2010 5:46 PM >>> > We don't worry about our Aruba APs. They're covered by a lifetime > warranty unlike the Cisco APs we were buying. > > Aruba Lifetime Warranty* > The following Aruba indoor enterprise-grade wireless access points are > > covered by Aruba’s Lifetime Warranty if purchased after May 21, > 2009: > ● AP-60 > ● AP-61 > ● AP-65 > ● AP-65WB > ● AP-70 > ● AP-105 > ● AP-120 > ● AP-120abg > ● AP-121 > ● AP-121abg > ● AP-124 > ● AP-124abg > ● AP-125 > ● AP-125abg > ● RAP-5 > ● RAP-5WN > * Aruba Lifetime Warranty coverage remains in place for as long as you > > own the product, up to five years following Aruba announcement of > end-of-sale of that product. > > > Todd Lane > University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill > > > On 4/11/2010 6:31 PM, Jeffrey Sessler wrote: >> Ethan, >> >> Where I would suggest spending some evaluation time is on the AP >> construction. Having had time to evaluate both the Aruba and Cisco > AP's, >> there were doubts as to the Aruba's life-span when placed in our >> residential halls. The design (this was their 802.11n product), > relied >> on venting and convection cooling, and it was unknown what would > happen >> as dust-bunnies and other obstructions settled on those vents. Even > in >> our "lab" the Aruba AP got hot, so much so that the metal shield on > the >> ethernet connector was uncomfortable to the touch. The Cisco AP's on > the >> other hand were 100% sealed, stayed cool, and the large aluminum > casing >> is the heat sink. Between the two, it was felt the Cisco would be >> maintenance free while the Aruba might require attention (dusting > off) >> from time to time. Point being, as you look at Aruba, HP, Meru, etc. >> make sure to keep the AP's design and planned deployment locations > in >> mind. >> >> Jeff >> >> >>>>> Ethan Sommer<somm...@gac.edu> 4/2/2010 6:25 PM>>> >>>>> >> As I said in another post we selected our "finalists" based on what >> others colleges seem happy with (which by a wide margin seems to be >> mostly cisco, aruba, and meru) and HP because we already have a HP >> infrastructure. >> >> My assumption is that all of you are smart and there is a reason you >> all >> chose to go with those products. >> >> We are on a tight budget, so based on initial pricing we eliminated >> Cisco and Meru who seemed to be the most expensive (plus we don't > like >> >> cisco for a number of other reasons). >> >> (As an aside, after posting here meru contacted me _and my boss_, > which >> >> I believe is not allowed under this list's rules. In any case, I > told >> them if they could provide a quote for a 200 dual radio complete > system >> >> in the same ballpark as the other systems we're looking at, then > we'll >> >> talk.) >> >> Our next steps are >> * To get quotes >> * And bring in the systems to do test runs in real life conditions. >> (We're going to try each out in one of the dorms and the library, > each >> >> of which currently have 10 APs.) >> >> If we aren't in love with any of those systems, we'll widen our >> search. >> >> We have very limited resources, so if one comes in much cheaper than >> the >> others the question will be "is that system good enough for us." >> Otherwise we'll pick the system that we think will work best for us. >> >> Based on talking with schools running Aruba and Meraki, I think > either >> >> would be a great move forward for us. I've yet to hear of a school > who >> >> chose either and regretted it. >> >> Ethan >> >> >> >> Mike Hydra wrote: >> >>> What I personally find interesting is the wide choice not from a >>> manufacturing point of view but more from a Wi-Fi technology point > of >>> >> >>> view. >>> >>> Aruba – Controller based (aka controller based) >>> All data goes through the controller, centralized architecture. >>> >>> HP – decentralized (Controller in not directly essential) >>> Data path is separated from the management path. >>> >>> Meraki – Cloud computing >>> Centralized Cloud, not having to own controller hardware inside > your >>> >> >>> own network. >>> >>> All three very different solutions. >>> >>> I’m looking forward to follow this email threat with the > comments, >>> >> >>> thanks for sharing. >>> I would recommend writing down a proof of concept and invite the >>> vendors of your choice. >>> In this way you’ve tested your requirement (out of your proof on >>> concept) therefore convinced around the solution you buy is the > right >>> >> one. >> >>> Good luck... >>> >>> >>> Mike Hydra >>> >>> Cell: +31 6 29 07 18 96 >>> Tel: +31 252 62 61 20 >>> Fax: +31 252 68 88 37 >>> E-mail: mhy...@2fast4wireless.com >>> Skype: Flying-Wireless-Dutchman >>> Web: www.2fast4wireless.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> *From: *Peter P Morrissey<ppmor...@syr.edu> >>> *Reply-To: *The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >>> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> >>> *Date: *Fri, 2 Apr 2010 22:47:26 +0200 >>> *To: *<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> >>> *Subject: *Re: Aruba vs HP vs Meraki >>> >>> OK, so I'll ask. Why did you eliminate Cisco already? >>> Pete M. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >>> [mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Ethan >>> >> Sommer >> >>> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:21 PM >>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba vs HP vs Meraki >>> >>> We are considering replacing our 200+ AP wireless infrastructure > with >>> >> a >> >>> controller based 802.11n system. >>> >>> I believe we have narrowed it down to Aruba, HP Procurve (we use HP >>> switch gear), and Meraki. >>> >>> I have two questions: >>> >>> 1. Are there any hidden costs we should watch out for with any of >>> >> these >> >>> (particularly Aruba.) Will we hit major costs other than the up >>> >> front >> >>> cost for the APs and the controllers? >>> >>> 2. I know a lot of schools are very happily using Aruba, but I >>> >> haven't >> >>> heard of any schools using HP and very few using Meraki. >>> >>> Are there any schools who have gone with Aruba and regretted it? If >>> so, why? >>> >>> Are there any schools out there using HP Procurve (formerly >>> >> Colubrius) >> >>> or Merkai? What do you think of them? 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