I would like to know if anyone has evaluated to use Internet Service Provider level APs to cover and offer wireless services in dorms or wide areas with hundreds of users, instead of using Enterprise APs designed to support 25 users per AP.
Soon, we are going to test GoNet Systems ISP level APs to serve approximately 300-400 users in 4 adjacent classrooms on first floor and 12 study rooms on second floor. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Luis Fernando Valverde Director de Tecnología de Información y Comunicaciones INCAE Business School Tel: 506+ 24 37 23 38 www.incae.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Voll, Toivo <to...@usf.edu> wrote: > I pretty much second Rick’s comments. We also don’t have wireless-only > dorms yet, but the next one will have much less wire than our existing ones. > **** > > ** ** > > One AP per suite is what we’ve done, but you have to also consider non-RF > placement issues – vandalism concerns, maintenance access and residents > complaining about blinky lights above their beds. **** > > ** ** > > Does the architect have issue with visible APs? If the APs are above > ceiling / behind walls, do indeed check the materials and placement of > ventilation ducts. Also, plan on PoE switches (and UPSes?) so power-cycling > capability and visibility into the gear are improved.**** > > ** ** > > Keep in mind that the tiling of 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz doesn’t have to be the > same, nor power levels, since the number of non-overlapping channels > differs. I’d try to find as many carrots as possible to steer people to 5 > GHz. 2.4 GHz is a pain, with game console controllers, microwaves and > number of other consumer devices adding to the lack of channels. Depending > on your vendor, having a good ability to sniff the air / do spectrum > analysis can be helpful in figuring out whether a wing just lost > connectivity due to a microwave, misbehaving AP or rogue AP. Other design > decisions – do you plan to support broadcast/multicast discovery (wireless > printers, time capsules etc.) or legacy devices that require low data rates > (i.e. Nintendo).**** > > ** ** > > Toivo Voll**** > > Network Administrator**** > > Information Technology Communications**** > > University of South Florida**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Rick Brown > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2012 13:52 > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless only dorms, advice?**** > > ** ** > > Sara, > > We have not moved that way but are looking at implementing wireless in the > dorms. We have decided to factor in several things in determining the > density of wireless. You'll need to consider the fact that students are > coming in with 3-4 wireless devices per person these days with at least a > couple being used simultaneously. You'll also want to factor in the > residence hall layouts. We've determined that we'll probably need to place > at least one per suite. This is due both to multiple devices per user but > also due to construction material and layout of the suites. If you want to > take full advantage of 802.11N technology you'll also want to design based > on 5GHz coverage with also reduces your coverage area. Even in our older > residence halls where there are two people per room and 4 to 5 bedrooms per > suite one AP is going to be pushing it and we may find that we need two to > a 8-10 person suite. Our residence halls tend to be constructed with > concrete block with drastically reduces the coverage area of 5GHz. > > I'm sure others that have already implemented wireless only can provide > actual results but these are some of the things we're trying to factor in. > > Rick > > > > On 1/18/2012 1:05 PM, Laird, Sara M wrote: **** > > Hello,**** > > **** > > I am looking for anyone who has moved to wireless only dorms. We have > fast track dorm construction project that is starting and our CIO would > like to make it wireless only. I am wondering if anyone has done this and > if so what kind of advice or comments can you share. We will be using > Cisco waps. Also I am wondering what kind of ratio you based your access > points on, how many devises per person. **** > > **** > > Best Regards, **** > > **** > > Sara**** > > **** > > Sara M. Laird**** > > Network Administrator**** > > Mount Saint Mary's University**** > > 301.447.5014**** > > Faith t Discovery t Leadership t Community**** > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. **** > > ** ** > > -- > **** > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. **** > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
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