Yeah- some are single-band with the notion that you'd put 5 GHz in one single gang existing cable location, 2.4 Ghz in the next... odd sounding at first, but opens up a lot of creative options (again, where you have existing UTP).
-Lee -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jethro R Binks Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:40 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless only dorms, advice? On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Lee H Badman wrote: > Though slightly off topic, I gotta chime in. I wish all major vendors > offered an in-wall wireless AP option- very empowering for environments > with lots of unused UTP. Seems to be getting better. Aruba have just announced something ("wall-to-wall wifi"), HP introduced something last year, and Brocade's rebadged Motorola solution has had one for a while, and it seems Ruckus too. Dunno about Cisco, but if not now it is probably coming. Need to keep an eye on the capabilites of them though; some may or may not offer 11n, or maybe only at 2.4G. Jethro. > > Lee H. Badman > Wireless/Network Engineer > Information Technology and Services > Adjunct Instructor, iSchool > Syracuse University > 315 443-3003 > > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Harry Rauch > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:15 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless only dorms, advice? > > Dorms are a bear to implement wireless, especially legacy buildings. We > have had wireless APs in dorms for 6 years and have made several > upgrades after discovering the weaknesses of different schemes. > > Our two most difficult dorms are multi-bed apartments that are two-story > inside the apartment. We elected to go with the Ruckus 2075 in-wall AP > with four additional ports. The coverage has been excellent and we have > only needed one per apartment. You may want to think of in-wall options > similar to hotels. > > Harry Rauch Sr. Network Analyst Eckerd College 4200 - 54th Ave S St. > Petersburg, FL 33711 > > On 1/18/12 1:51 PM, Rick Brown wrote: > Sara, > > We have not moved that way but are looking at implementing wireless in the > dorms. We have decided to factor in several things in determining the > density of wireless. You'll need to consider the fact that students are > coming in with 3-4 wireless devices per person these days with at least a > couple being used simultaneously. You'll also want to factor in the > residence hall layouts. We've determined that we'll probably need to place > at least one per suite. This is due both to multiple devices per user but > also due to construction material and layout of the suites. If you want to > take full advantage of 802.11N technology you'll also want to design based on > 5GHz coverage with also reduces your coverage area. Even in our older > residence halls where there are two people per room and 4 to 5 bedrooms per > suite one AP is going to be pushing it and we may find that we need two to a > 8-10 person suite. Our residence halls tend to be constructed with concrete > block with drastica! lly reduces the coverage area of 5GHz. > > I'm sure others that have already implemented wireless only can provide > actual results but these are some of the things we're trying to factor in. > > Rick > > > > On 1/18/2012 1:05 PM, Laird, Sara M wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for anyone who has moved to wireless only dorms. We have fast > track dorm construction project that is starting and our CIO would like to > make it wireless only. I am wondering if anyone has done this and if so what > kind of advice or comments can you share. We will be using Cisco waps. Also > I am wondering what kind of ratio you based your access points on, how many > devises per person. > > Best Regards, > > Sara > > Sara M. 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