Chad....

Who is your DHCP server ? Aruba ?
I was wondering how you push them to a diff scope ?


Ken Connell
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Street, Chad A" <cstr...@emory.edu>
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] School blocks Wi-Fi access to smartphones to 
address IP usage issues
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU


> You do not have to pay extra for the device type identification; however,
>  you do need to be on the 6.x code levels.  With the device fingerprinting,
>  you can easily push all the smartphones to a unique dhcp scope with very
>  low lease times.
>  
>  Chad Street - Emory
>  
>  
>  On 3/7/12 12:57 PM, "Pham, Loc" <loc.p...@ucsfmedctr.org> wrote:
>  
>  >  Marcelo,
>  >  The Aruba feature that allow fingerprint on the devices, do you 
> have to
>  >pay extra for it to be functional ?
>  >
>  >  I hope our Cisco BU is listening ;-)))
>  >
>  >Regards,
>  >
>  >Loc Pham, CCIE
>  >office 415-353-4492
>  >IT Enterprise Security & Services
>  >UCSF Medical Center
>  >
>  >-----Original Message-----
>  >From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>  >[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcelo Lew
>  >Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:17 AM
>  >To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>  >Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] School blocks Wi-Fi access to 
> smartphones to
>  >address IP usage issues
>  >
>  >Smartphones were killing us this quarter.  While we only have 3500-3800
>  >concurrent daily users, we have about 6500 devices connected.  Most 
> of
>  >these extra 3000 devices were smartphones that come online for less 
> than
>  >a minute, and then go idle again.  With our 30m DHCP renew times, we 
> were
>  >exhausting our 5500 public IP pool for our main SSID.  Instead of moving
>  >to private space (which most likely we will in the near future), we 
> added
>  >6 more class c subnets.  We are now NOT running out of IPs, at least 
> for
>  >a short while.  We also thought of making the DHCP lease times very 
> short
>  >(like 5 minutes), but our DHCP admin is uncertain what issues might 
> arise
>  >from this.  Another option we are thinking about, the new Aruba code
>  >allows fingerprinting devices before they are placed on a subnet, so 
> we
>  >could put all smartphones in specific subnets with short lease 
> times, and
>  >leave the rest of the devices (pads, netbook, notebooks, etc) on regular
>  >subnets with average DHCP lease times.
>  >
>  >Marcelo Lew
>  >Wireless Enterprise Administrator
>  >University Technology Services
>  >University of Denver
>  >Desk: (303) 871-6523
>  >Cell: (303) 669-4217
>  >Fax:  (303) 871-5900
>  >Email: m...@du.edu
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >-----Original Message-----
>  >From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>  >[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonn Martell
>  >Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:22 AM
>  >To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>  >Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] School blocks Wi-Fi access to 
> smartphones to
>  >address IP usage issues
>  >
>  >I agree, the school newspaper only shows it from a user's perspective.
>  > "The smartphones are shutting down the network" while it's more "the
>  >network has run out of public address space and the use of private
>  >address space on this network is _______ "
>  >
>  >We all know the major flaw in using private address space is logging 
> and
>  >tracking but there are solutions to this.  Shutting down access (by 
> MAC
>  >block ID?) would not be one of mine.
>  >
>  >Jonn Martell, speaking as a network instructor and Director but not 
> on
>  >behalf of the Universities I work at....
>  >
>  >On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Frank Bulk <frnk...@iname.com> wrote:
>  >> http://www.vsuspectator.com/2012/02/02/outage-linked-to-usage/
>  >>
>  >> Looks like VSU had to make some hard choices and is blocking Wi-Fi
>  >> access by smartphones.  Not sure why they couldn't add another RFC
>  >> 1918 block, but I'm sure there's more going on than the school paper
>  >>shared.
>  >>
>  >> Frank
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