We have the typical corridor deployment and also experienced low power levels 
due to default RRM/TPC thresholds. We didn't like the idea of micromanaging 
power levels or the huge cost increase and security concerns of placing WAPs in 
the rooms. In Cisco land, a workaround for now, was increasing the power 
threshold from the default –70 to –50 whenever there are three or more 
neighbors. I've only seen the way to do this globally per each controller, and 
changes are only invoked by the Power Assignment Leader. I was hoping to be 
able to create groups and manage RRM per building but I'm either overlooking 
that feature or imagined it. We're using wism2's on 7.2 code.

So for now this is a campus-wide adjustment. Given the majority of our coverage 
model is corridor based in academic and res hall buildings, it appears to be a 
benefit in most locations. We have fairly good overlap so it is rare that any 
given WAP is at full power, even with the increased threshold. If we end up 
with too much channel noise we might reduce the threshold a bit. NCS heat maps 
show improved coverage into corner and obstructed areas and our Fluke AirCheck 
and some laptop testing confirm.

Michael Dorshimer
Network Administrator
Shippensburg University

From: Tristan Gulyas 
<tristan.gul...@monash.edu<mailto:tristan.gul...@monash.edu>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Monday, January 21, 2013 11:34 PM
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] students per AP in residence halls

Hi Tom.

The issue we've had is not one of density but one of coverage; in some site 
surveys we'e conducted recently in our residential spaces, we are finding that 
one AP might cover only a small amount of students, say, 6-12 reliably.

The challenges have been that our residential halls are old, double-brick with 
all sorts of reinforcement. We are site surveying for 2.4GHz - we can't justify 
the cost of a high density deployment to support 5GHz everywhere.

I have also noticed that HP produce a small active wall-outlet switch+AP which 
is PoE powered.  It is b/g/n 2.4GHz-only (sigh) and is aimed at the hospitality 
industry.

Where are people placing their APs?  We currently place them in the corridor, 
however our challenge has been that the APs see each other and RRM wants to 
drop the power levels.  We also run into issues if we have more than three APs 
in direct line of sight.

I'm curious - how do hotels deal with this problem?  They have similar 
construction and requirements.

Cheers,
Tristan
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Tom O'Donnell 
<to...@maine.edu<mailto:to...@maine.edu>> wrote:
I was wondering what other schools have for a ratio of students to
AP's in the residence halls, either definitely or approximately?

If you have such a number, how do you count dual-band AP's?  They're
doing more than a 2.4GHz AP, but not quite as much as two AP's.

Then one last related question... Would anyone know their relative mix
of 2.4GHz vs. 5GHz connections in residence halls?

Thanks.

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Tom O'Donnell
Senior Manager of Network and Server Systems
Information Technology Services
University of Maine at Farmington
(207) 778-7336<tel:%28207%29%20778-7336>
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