Well there are things worse than waiting, such an less work for us to do.
 AppleTalk was introduced in 1985, and zones came along in AppleTalk Phase
II in 1989.  Networks at the business level were very new then.  Now
networks are such a competitive market that vendors are competing to solve
certain problems for Apple such as zoning, though it isn't clear how it
will all shake out.  I think Apple is doing the reasonable thing at this
point in time, which is to create solutions popular enough that people care
that managing it is a problem.  That means an opportunity for others.  No
other method is likely to get off the ground these days.

This is just the consumerization of IT.  I'm happy that they're taking this
approach, because it is enabling people to do more faster, if not
perfectly.  I think they've identified their customers quite well, and IT
manager's needs don't rate as highly as the needs of the consumer to them.
 It's a different world, but I don't want to go back to the old one.  We'd
all do the same in their position.  I think job security implies a certain
amount of chaos.  It could be a lot worse, and has been from my point of
view.

Just my $.02

Mark


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote:

>  It's this sort of support nightmare that keeps us waiting for Apple to
> fix their problem. It's great that WLAN vendors are creatively coming up
> with work-arounds but I have yet to find gadget/method/paradigm/unicorn
> dust that both satisfies the technical and administrative challenges of
> devices that just aren't ready to play on business networks. But like
> everyone else, I'm hoping for sunnier days soon:)
>
>  *Lee H. Badman*
> Network Architect/Wireless TME
> ITS, Syracuse University
> 315.443.3003
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Scott Allen [
> sc...@georgetown.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:54 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4.100.60(Beta Version)
>
>   Trent,
>
> Sorry for the delay – my response to your question:
>
>
>
> “*On your apple tv’s are you connecting them to WPA/enterprise ssid?  If
> so how are you dealing with the time sync issue when the apple tv loses
> power?*”
>
>
>
> Is that we don’t deal with it very well.
>
> I met with our technical team yesterday and we are planning to limit the
> mDNS service to our 802.1x SSID only.
>
> As you know, to bootstrap the device to an 802.1x network, you need to
> plug in an Ethernet cable first to get the time set and then unplug the
> cable to switch over to WIFi.
>
> If the device loses power, you need to repeat the sequence.  There is no
> current workaround that I’m aware of.
>
> Either we find a way to make the device happy to think it is living at the
> dawn of unix epoch or we wait for apple’s promised fall 2013 ATV code
> upgrade to fix change things.
>
>
>
> -Scott
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Hurt,Trenton W.
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:50 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4.100.60(Beta Version)
>
>
>
> I have been running it on 5508’s with over 2500 aps, no real major issues
> that I am seeing or that anyone is reporting to me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Scott,
>
>
>
> On your apple tv’s are you connecting them to WPA/enterprise ssid?  If so
> how are you dealing with the time sync issue when the apple tv loses
> power?
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>]
> *On Behalf Of *Scott Allen
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:28 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4.100.60(Beta Version)
>
>
>
> We’ve been running for about two weeks on it, about 700 APs on four Wism2s
> with no issues reported yet.
>
> I wanted it to get the latest Bonjour configuration running. Apple TV
> pilot project is going well.
>
> -Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>]
> *On Behalf Of *Legge, Jeffry
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:59 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 7.4.100.60(Beta Version)
>
>
>
> Is anyone running this release? Is it stable?
>
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