We use the 'byod' model in our housing. Students sign up for Comcast and we do not interfere with their use of wireless. The housing area only has university wifi in the administration areas. However, our housing is much more like apartments than normal college housing.
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian Helman Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 3:23 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] To provide (wireless) service, or not to provide (wireless) service... I was deliberately ambiguous in the initial post, because I wanted to see how the conversation would go. Granted, simply by posting here I have a somewhat biased sampling. The problem is, there's something like 21,000 colleges/universities in the world .. so I'm getting the "I've heard some schools are 'doing this' and it saves a lot of money" (maybe Phillipe's kids need to go to one of those schools ;) ). We're in the process of building a new res hall (opening over the summer) and another was just announced. I mentioned this post to the design committee for the current res hall project and the faces were priceless. Whether we/I agree with moving away from institutionally-owned WiFi or not, I'm going to have to research and write up alternatives. Just a couple answers -- yes, I meant just our Res Halls. --I wonder if I could get a WiFi enabled Prius and drop it in the res halls? My Prius has been rock-solid! --"as a service" was the term that was presented to me. I'm not clear on it at this point either. Lee (et al), what has a higher suck factor -- byoWiFi without support from IT or with? The problem with people having the ability to create their own home networks is, everyone thinks they know how to properly implement a wireless network. It's kind of like education .. we all went to school, so we all think we're experts on the subject. I'll let this conversation continue without my thoughts for a few days and then I'll give more specific information. But I will say, without researching this further, my gut reaction is .. this is the worst idea I've ever heard. And, as the father of a 16 y.o who is finishing her Jr year in HS and looking at colleges, I would never consider a school that avoided technology investment. -Brian ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Jeremy Gibbs [jlgi...@utica.edu] Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 3:50 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] To provide (wireless) service, or not to provide (wireless) service... Not sure if this will make a difference, but if you haven't read this, take a look. It has some very useful data about ResNet/Wireless/Bandwidth etc... https://www.acuta.org/acuta/pdf/041715b.pdf<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.acuta.org_acuta_pdf_041715b.pdf&d=AwMF-g&c=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ&r=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4&m=0l7RXPeTmWXfRkbgERAQJ3B83lL_rWLsnccCAUqC7iM&s=0doSdVGu9MEJeYUaKJEHvbfrospU54JZp1Cm562tVH0&e=> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote: If wiring costs are the main issue, I'd go with wallplate APs on existing cabling (even if not 11ac- just n). To not provide Wi-Fi is pretty backwards at this point and to say "bring your own" with the expectation that your group will somehow support that is the stuff of nightmares for all parties. Not sure how 4G helps in this case- bad assumption that all devices can use it. Also not understanding what "as a service" amounts to. The more gimmicky it gets, the worse the suck factor will be. -Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003<tel:315.443.3003> (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wirednot.wordpress.com&d=AwMF-g&c=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ&r=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4&m=0l7RXPeTmWXfRkbgERAQJ3B83lL_rWLsnccCAUqC7iM&s=8g5pPLOFSLYB_Mj9_JNrS-aVg7ORuBh_f6AlnY42cnI&e=>) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Brian Helman Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 11:23 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] To provide (wireless) service, or not to provide (wireless) service... A few weeks ago we made a pitch for funding to upgrade our res halls to 802.11ac. This request for funding has had an unforeseen effect. I'm not being asked to investigate NOT providing wireless networking in our res halls. Here are the options, as it has been described to me: -No institutional wireless. Let the students bring in their own AP's -Some kind of managed service (wireless as a service) with 802.11 -Some kind of institutionally owned/leased mobile wireless (e.g we provide our own 4G) -Hybrid -Continue with 802.11n 2.4GHz and fill in holes as they pop up I'm not going to put my thoughts up here just yet. These are the options/thoughts as presented by the levels above me. Let the discussion begin.... ____________________________________ Brian Helman, M.Ed | Director, ITS/Networking Services | *: 978.542.7272<tel:978.542.7272> Salem State University, 352 Lafayette St., Salem Massachusetts 01970 GPS: 42.502129, -70.894779 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.educause.edu_groups_&d=AwMF-g&c=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ&r=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4&m=0l7RXPeTmWXfRkbgERAQJ3B83lL_rWLsnccCAUqC7iM&s=btj_f5eeWFJ7rwKUTJhCItQyhsO1ve2FLeeuwGuRAyI&e=>. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.educause.edu_groups_&d=AwMF-g&c=6vgNTiRn9_pqCD9hKx9JgXN1VapJQ8JVoF8oWH1AgfQ&r=rYfqH_8oTvcXxRxUI3x3m3Y7Nwgir7tnuoGbdZsrUM4&m=0l7RXPeTmWXfRkbgERAQJ3B83lL_rWLsnccCAUqC7iM&s=btj_f5eeWFJ7rwKUTJhCItQyhsO1ve2FLeeuwGuRAyI&e=>. -- -- Jeremy L. 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