Does that include MiFis? Lee H. Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003
________________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Frank Sweetser <f...@wpi.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:22 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 6-month follow-up to Marriott/FCC Wifi blocking stories Students should be a relatively easy case. At least here, we make them sign an AUP, which references explicit provisions about not running unauthorized APs. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 08/20/2015 11:19 AM, Philippe Hanset wrote: > We need to wait on an unfortunate school to be sued by a student due to Mi-Fi > blocking in a Residential Property > > -Student: > > I pay rent, I can do whatever I want in my room > > -School: > > We provide “free” Wi-FI to all rooms and the interferences are becoming > unmanageable > to a point where we have more trouble tickets than packets being successfully > sent or received. > We had to do something. > > -Lawyers: > > Either way, we will cash on this! > > -FCC: > > So, we have an Interferer being interfered by another interferer. Could > Scott Adams please give us some wisdom on this > > > Philippe > > Philippe Hanset > > > >> On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu >> <mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote: >> >> It's a good point, and there was a bit of chatter on this on Twitter. The >> FCC has left the whole thing way too open-ended given the popularity of >> Wi-Fi, and a lot of topics bleed over on to each other. >> >> I'd be surprised if they responded in any way- the preference seems to be to >> ambush users with fines. >> >> >> *Lee H. Badman* >> Network Architect/Wireless TME >> ITS, Syracuse University >> 315.443.3003 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Philippe Hanset >> <phan...@anyroam.net <mailto:phan...@anyroam.net>> >> *Sent:*Thursday, August 20, 2015 10:34 AM >> *To:*WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> >> *Subject:*Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 6-month follow-up to Marriott/FCC Wifi blocking >> stories >> Lee, >> >> I just read your Open Letter. Good work. Thank you. >> >> One question that I have for future reference is: >> “What constitutes blocking?” >> >> You mention White Noise or Frame manipulation… >> What if building owners have frequency blocking material as part of the >> design of the building. >> This could be considered passive blocking as opposed to white noise or frame >> manipulation but it is blocking regardless. >> We might want to know the FCC point of view on this before we create “wave >> free classrooms”! >> >> Best, >> >> Philippe >> >> Philippe Hanset >> www.eduriam.us <http://www.eduriam.us/> >> >> >> >>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu >>> <mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm trying to get the FCC's attention on this: >>> >>> https://wirednot.wordpress.com/2015/08/19/an-open-letter-to-the-fcc/ >>> >>> -Lee >>> >>> *Lee H. Badman* >>> Network Architect/Wireless TME >>> ITS, Syracuse University >>> 315.443.3003 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >>> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >>> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Mike King >>> <m...@mpking.com <mailto:m...@mpking.com>> >>> *Sent:*Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:01 PM >>> *To:*WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >>> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> >>> *Subject:*Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 6-month follow-up to Marriott/FCC Wifi >>> blocking stories >>> I know it's two weeks later, but Smart Holdings just got smacked by the FCC >>> for the same thing. (Which is probably why you were asking) >>> >>> http://gizmodo.com/its-about-damn-time-fcc-says-convention-centers-cant-b-1724805719?dfp_pp_ab=on&dfp_desktop_three=off&utm_expid=66866090-43.E9Bjfd6NTuSlXJewu2e_Ig.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Bob Brown<bbr...@nww.com >>> <mailto:bbr...@nww.com>>wrote: >>> >>> I’m looking to follow up on aseries of stories we ran in late >>> 2014/early 2015 >>> >>> <http://www.networkworld.com/article/2879142/wireless/fcc-still-has-ton-of-explaining-to-do-on-wi-fi-blocking-rules.html>on >>> the Marriott Wifi blocking issue. To refresh, the FCC fined Marriott >>> for blocking a Wifi hotspot (or hotspots) at one of its hotel >>> convention centers. The incident sparked quite a bit of discussion on >>> this listserv, as university/college network pros wondered whether >>> their own Wifi management/security practices would now be considered >>> legit and whether the products they were using could still be used. >>> >>> *I’ve followed up with Marriott, whose CIO kicked me over to public >>> relations, which naturally declined to comment. >>> *The hospitality industry trade group had said at the time of the >>> FCC/Marriott decisions that it was going to launch a cybersecurity task >>> force to study this topic further, but they haven’t responded to my >>> inquiries, so I’m not sure whether such a task force was formed and if >>> so, whether it has accomplished anything. >>> *The FCC has been unresponsive on this matter entirely. >>> *I’ve contacted WLAN vendors that I spoke to for some of the original >>> articles to see if anything has changed on their end since the start of >>> the year and they haven’t had much to say so far. >>> >>> So, based on all this, I don’t have much of an update to write about at >>> this point…perhaps exactly what these parties would like. >>> >>> But, I’m also wondering if any of you who were trying to figure out >>> earlier this year what the FCC decision/Marriott response meant to you, >>> have taken any new approaches to managing/security Wifi on your >>> campuses. 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