I'm honestly not surprised to hear that they are going to push wifi calling and 
nothing else.  They want to drop all cellular service other than data, long 
term, in my opinion.

I have AT&T myself, and ran the iOS 9 beta from the beginning, which got me 
early access to AT&T wifi calling.  Needless to say, it has not been a pleasant 
experience.  Calls drop all the time.

For our wireless we have not had to do anything.  Calls just work without 
opening inbound ports (we don't limit much going outbound).  My calls run about 
65kbps.

The pain point is something you've already mentioned - roaming.  If at any time 
you roam from wifi to cell and there is no VoLTE service in your area, the call 
dies.  We apparently don't have VoLTE in Chattanooga, TN.  If I stay in my 
office I can usually hold a call, and roaming from AP to AP is sometimes ok.  
Sometimes the roam between APs is enough to drop the call.  I've also noticed 
that if I get more than 2 cell bars, the phone will want to go off of wifi 
calling on its own.  Even at home where I only have 1 AP and can be sitting 15 
feet from it, I'll drop calls because my phone decided to roam back to cell 
during a live call.

To directly answer your questions:
1. I don't plan on doing anything special.  We have enough free bandwidth to 
handle a large number of 65kbps calls.
2. Mine have been 65kbps or there about.
3. We run both frequencies, but my phone tends to stay 5ghz.  I don't think we 
would change anything to support wifi calling.
4. I'm not sure how we will get this across other than to let our helpdesk know 
what to tell people when they call in about it.  We'll be looking into this 
more I'm sure.
5. I'm a little surprised that carriers are being allowed to run calls over end 
user networks.  911 is a big deal, and if our wifi is up enough that the phone 
can do wifi calling, but there are issues going on to prevent calls, who gets 
blamed here?  In an emergency, it's too much to troubleshoot what's going on 
and figure out that you have to cut off your wireless to get a call through.  
As far as I know, there's nothing we have to do in terms of uptime or anything.

-Christopher

On Oct 16, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Smith, Todd 
<todd.sm...@camc.org<mailto:todd.sm...@camc.org>> wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday, a regional VP for AT&T Wireless told my Enterprise Architect and CIO 
that AT&T was not interested in pursuing a distributed antenna system with us 
and made it clear that they would not be moving forward with any DAS in the 
future.  In seems, that Wi-Fi calling is the moving forward strategy for AT&T 
for poor cellular signal and presumably other carriers.  I wasn’t in the 
meeting but I am confident that it has been reported accurately.

Does this sound like anything that anyone else has heard?  If so, how are other 
institutions handling this?  It seems silly that our organization which is in 
the planning stages for a Wi-Fi wireless upgrade anyway would build in the 
necessary upgrades to accumulate cell carrier backhaul traffic for no 
compensation whatsoever.

As usual, my job is to do or die, so I am trying to see what others might have 
done and if possible start a line of discussion to reason out the best way to 
handle poor cellular coverage in both older buildings as well as brand new 
LEEDS certified buildings.

1)      Would you create a new SSID for cellular traffic with QoS enabled and 
open to the Internet with UDP 500 and 4500 open as well as more normal ports?
2)      I can’t find any solid reference that details exactly how much 
bandwidth per call.  I have literally read in the last couple of hours, 
everything from 2.5Kbps to 1Mbps to a general consensus from 60-128Kbps per 
call.
3)      2.4Ghz or 5Ghz or both?
4)      Much of the discussion of seamless handover from cell to Wi-Fi involved 
HD Voice which seems to be provisioned as part of VoLTE and only available in 
some areas; i.e. not my coverage area.  How to communicate to your normal users 
and any public that uses your Wi-Fi that when they switch between platforms; 
the call will be dropped?
5)      Would we be responsible for maintaining redundant Internet connections 
just to support cell calls?  Is there any requirement that would state that 
since we are providing cellular infrastructure that we are responsible for a 
certain minimum SLA?

Is there any other questions or comments to think about?

Todd





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