Thanks to Hunter Fuller who relayed Jason's questions.

I have been piecing together information from muliple sources and there isn't a 
whitepaper that I have found yet.

1) For AT&T, it is only 4 phones usable for Wi-Fi calling and it has be 
configured by the phone as well as a correct service plan.
2) I don't know, but it is not something that I am happy.
3) Call minutes, No.  SMS are billed according to user's plan.
4) I don't know, but I hate that fact that it looks like our organization is 
going to on the hook for something.

Todd

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From: Hunter Fuller [hf0...@uah.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:53 PM
To: Smith, Todd
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] How to handle Wi-Fi Calling?

Todd,

Jason wrote:

Can anyone point to a good technical doc or whitepaper that describes how this 
is supposed to work with IOS9 for instance?


 *   Is IOS9 or carrier code determining when/if wifi calling is possible?
 *   How is a wireless carrier who's chief business is to operate a wireless 
network and sell access to it able to offload traffic to random networks and 
still sell that service to customers without the explicit cooperation of the 
operators of those random networks?
 *   Do these "wifi" minutes get charged to customers? SMS?
 *   To echo what Christopher said, what about 911 etc, who is responsible for 
call quality and completion?
 *   What about geolocation and emergency, does the wifi enhance it or 
obsfucate it in any way?

It's getting pretty murky out there!


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Network Engineer
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Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
Systems and Infrastructure

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Smith, Todd 
<todd.sm...@camc.org<mailto:todd.sm...@camc.org>> wrote:
Jason,

Did you have some feedback?  Your message came through without any text.

Todd

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Hello,

Yesterday, a regional VP for AT&T Wireless told my Enterprise Architect and CIO 
that AT&T was not interested in pursuing a distributed antenna system with us 
and made it clear that they would not be moving forward with any DAS in the 
future.  In seems, that Wi-Fi calling is the moving forward strategy for AT&T 
for poor cellular signal and presumably other carriers.  I wasn’t in the 
meeting but I am confident that it has been reported accurately.

Does this sound like anything that anyone else has heard?  If so, how are other 
institutions handling this?  It seems silly that our organization which is in 
the planning stages for a Wi-Fi wireless upgrade anyway would build in the 
necessary upgrades to accumulate cell carrier backhaul traffic for no 
compensation whatsoever.

As usual, my job is to do or die, so I am trying to see what others might have 
done and if possible start a line of discussion to reason out the best way to 
handle poor cellular coverage in both older buildings as well as brand new 
LEEDS certified buildings.

1)      Would you create a new SSID for cellular traffic with QoS enabled and 
open to the Internet with UDP 500 and 4500 open as well as more normal ports?
2)      I can’t find any solid reference that details exactly how much 
bandwidth per call.  I have literally read in the last couple of hours, 
everything from 2.5Kbps to 1Mbps to a general consensus from 60-128Kbps per 
call.
3)      2.4Ghz or 5Ghz or both?
4)      Much of the discussion of seamless handover from cell to Wi-Fi involved 
HD Voice which seems to be provisioned as part of VoLTE and only available in 
some areas; i.e. not my coverage area.  How to communicate to your normal users 
and any public that uses your Wi-Fi that when they switch between platforms; 
the call will be dropped?
5)      Would we be responsible for maintaining redundant Internet connections 
just to support cell calls?  Is there any requirement that would state that 
since we are providing cellular infrastructure that we are responsible for a 
certain minimum SLA?

Is there any other questions or comments to think about?

Todd





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