I don't see that the service has improved all that much.  I'm still running the 
beta program, so I'm currently on iOS 9.1 beta 5 I think.  However, I don't 
really do calls a whole lot.  It's been a few days according to the call log.

I can only watch the bandwidth usage when I'm on the phone at my desk.  It 
tends to start in the low 40kbps area and climb up from there.  I've not seen 
one hit triple digits yet.

We do have a captive portal and honestly I've not tried wifi calling when stuck 
in there yet.  If it uses DNS it will break at this point in time, but if they 
have a list of hard coded IP address in the phone software it will still work.  
Our captive portal is strictly DNS smoke and mirrors.

Now that you mention it, I do remember it asking for an address and giving me a 
warning in ALL CAPS for 911.

-Christopher

On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Smith, Todd 
<todd.sm...@camc.org<mailto:todd.sm...@camc.org>> wrote:

Christopher,

Those are some great answers and I apperciate the input!

1) Has the call drop percentage improved as the service is maturing?
2) 65Kbps is much better then I was expecting, so that it good.  Do you notice 
many spikes in bandwidth as the call is in progress?
3) Do you have a splash page or captive portal on your open wireless?  Does 
that interfere with AT&T Wi-Fi calling in your experience?
4) I agree that E911 is going to be a serious issue.  On AT&T Wi-Fi calling 
FAQ, the user has to specify a location that they would normally be using Wi-Fi 
Calling for E911 purposes.  It is also going to try to get location information 
from the Wi-Fi networks to locate the call, but it will default back to stored 
location as a last result.

Thanks

Todd



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] 
On Behalf Of Howard, Christopher 
[christopher-how...@utc.edu<mailto:christopher-how...@utc.edu>]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 3:34 PM
To: 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] How to handle Wi-Fi Calling?


I'm honestly not surprised to hear that they are going to push wifi calling and 
nothing else.  They want to drop all cellular service other than data, long 
term, in my opinion.


I have AT&T myself, and ran the iOS 9 beta from the beginning, which got me 
early access to AT&T wifi calling.  Needless to say, it has not been a pleasant 
experience.  Calls drop all the time.


For our wireless we have not had to do anything.  Calls just work without 
opening inbound ports (we don't limit much going outbound).  My calls run about 
65kbps.


The pain point is something you've already mentioned - roaming.  If at any time 
you roam from wifi to cell and there is no VoLTE service in your area, the call 
dies.  We apparently don't have VoLTE in Chattanooga, TN.  If I stay in my 
office I can usually hold a call, and roaming from AP to AP is sometimes ok.  
Sometimes the roam between APs is enough to drop the call.  I've also noticed 
that if I get more than 2 cell bars, the phone will want to go off of wifi 
calling on its own.  Even at home where I only have 1 AP and can be sitting 15 
feet from it, I'll drop calls because my phone decided to roam back to cell 
during a live call.


To directly answer your questions:
1. I don't plan on doing anything special.  We have enough free bandwidth to 
handle a large number of 65kbps calls.
2. Mine have been 65kbps or there about.
3. We run both frequencies, but my phone tends to stay 5ghz.  I don't think we 
would change anything to support wifi calling.
4. I'm not sure how we will get this across other than to let our helpdesk know 
what to tell people when they call in about it.  We'll be looking into this 
more I'm sure.
5. I'm a little surprised that carriers are being allowed to run calls over end 
user networks.  911 is a big deal, and if our wifi is up enough that the phone 
can do wifi calling, but there are issues going on to prevent calls, who gets 
blamed here?  In an emergency, it's too much to troubleshoot what's going on 
and figure out that you have to cut off your wireless to get a call through.  
As far as I know, there's nothing we have to do in terms of uptime or anything.

-Christopher

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