On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 08:46:28PM +0000, Jeffrey D. Sessler wrote:
> On limiting the 8510 to 3000 WAPs, and then adding another 8510
> pair. Since the 8500 series are subject to Cisco’s new and
> improved RTU licensing, instead of adding another pair of
> 8510’s, purchase a pair of 8540’s and move the 8510’s 3000 AP
> licenses to the new 8540 along with the additional licenses.

Except that Cisco don't treat the 8510 and the 8540 as the same
"family", so they won't let you move AP licences between them.
We've just been through this, and I raised the same question...
"they're 85xx, so we can just move our 8510 AP licences to the new
8540 hardware". Which Cisco confirmed that we couldn't. :(

Why they couldn't call it the 9540 (or even the 8640) to make that
clear I have no idea, but then there are 7500/5520 controllers in
the same families, so it's a right mess. I *think* I worked out
that the Flex7500 and 8510 are in one family, and the
5520/8540/vWLC are in another, but I'm not entirely sure. It was
certainly implied that we could move the licences to some
different controllers, just not the 8540.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/flex-7500-series-wireless-controllers/qa_c67-713536.html
seems to also imply you can't even move from e.g. a 5520 to a
8540, only between exactly the same model.

And of course you also can't move the base licences from a
controller to any other controller. Only the adder licences are
transferrable. So if you bought a controller with 1000 base
licenses, and a couple of 1000 adder licences to get up to 3000,
on the 2000 extra can be moved.

Really, it would be better if Cisco stopped the AP licences
nonsense completely and just added £50 to the cost of each AP. But
I guess the current way makes them a lot more money...

> I mention this because the zero-AP 8510 and 8540 are the exact
> same list price, so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to get the
> 8510’a. Oh, and instead of smartnet on four 8510 controllers,
> it’s just smartnet on two 8540’s.

Charging maintenance on controller AP licences is also dodgy IMO
(or "good business practise", from Cisco's point of view), and
definitely something to watch out for if you have lots of spare
controller AP licences around.

Matthew


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