Hi Carlo,

We will be upgrading to the TAC recommended 8.8.125.0 later tonight. We thought 
that this could eliminate some problems and at least squash a few bugs that we 
may be running into.

I really wish Cisco would make an MD release available for the 8.8 train, it 
seems to have been a continual ED train since it came out of the gate.

Thanks

Sean

Sean Gray | B.Sc (Hons)
Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst
ITS, University of Lethbridge

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Hi,

We were hit with similar problems across multiple sites on earlier 8.8 builds, 
now running the latest/ last 8.8.125.3 escalation build from Cisco on multiple 
controllers with stable results.
We are seeing one issue with MBP whereby they remain associated and on session 
timeout stop forwarding traffic.

This is a corner case and yet to be successfully identified as a bug by Cisco 
TAC.

Rgds

Carlo

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 14:18, John Turner 
<jtur...@nyansa.com<mailto:jtur...@nyansa.com>> wrote:
I second Mark's suggestion - we've detected this problem at nearly a dozen of 
our higher ed and enterprise customers.

Seems that the issue is between a waking macbook and an android

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless/aironet-3800-series-access-points/214491-arp-responses-for-default-gateway-ip-add.html

Traditional tools aren't finding this - we are detecting a drop in traffic as 
well as the duplicate gateway address that triggers an advisory alert.

John

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:57 AM Mark Reboli 
<mreb...@misericordia.edu<mailto:mreb...@misericordia.edu>> wrote:
Look into the Issue with apple sleeping devices changing their IPs to your 
gateway.  We experienced this causing intermitted issues.  Take a look at the 
link below:

https://community.meraki.com/t5/Wireless-LAN/Help-Windows-client-receiving-incorrect-MAC-address-of-Gateway/td-p/39963

If you have any questions please feel free to contact me off line

m
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What AP models do you have?

We're still on AireOS 8.5.144.33. The COS APs have been running pretty well for 
us.

We've had intermittent issues on IOS APs though. The radios periodically reset 
and can't seem to clear some packets. Once an AP starts having issues the radio 
may even cycle every few minutes indefinitely. Do you monitor the AP syslogs?

Here are the bug IDs for this:
CSCvp86151 IOS APs radio reset with code 44, mostly seen on 2.4GHz radio
CSCvp66546 702w Radio reset due to tx stuck

The first one doesn't have a real solution yet, we're running debug images to 
capture more information. TAC says it might be related to high QBSS, but I saw 
an AP report high QBSS with no other APs or other known Wi-Fi sources above -80 
dBm, so I'm not convinced.

The 702W bug has a good debug image in place though. TAC found that stranded 
packets for clients in power save mode (mostly Murata or Samsung S10 devices) 
would accumulate in memory and after 60 seconds the AP radio resets to clear 
the packets. But the reset didn't clear them (or more accumulated) so it just 
continues resetting the radio. The fixed image discards packets that couldn't 
be transmitted after 20 seconds, without resetting the radio. It also has a 
counter that shows the number of times this was triggered and reset prevented

Another thing that comes to mind is the issue with MacOS devices sending ARP 
replies for the gateway IP address. I haven't seen this one, but it sounds 
similar enough to your issue.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless/aironet-3800-series-access-points/214491-arp-responses-for-default-gateway-ip-add.html


On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 6:33 PM Jason Cook 
<jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au<mailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au>> wrote:
We have also experienced AVC crippling our network. Once the traffic volumes 
are higher than X. Performance goes south and can get to 0.

Nothing else similar to your description, though that issue was on 8.2 and we 
are currently 8.5



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Are you running AVC? If so, you might try disabling. It has caused us no end of 
trouble in the past, similar symptoms. One man’s opinion from past experience.
Lee Badman (mobile)

On Sep 23, 2019, at 7:49 PM, Gray, Sean 
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Hi Everyone,

We are getting reports of internet connectivity issues from our wireless users. 
The problem is very temperamental with users bouncing from being able to browse 
& access App content flawlessly, to experiencing a complete failure to browse 
to websites and refresh App content. As an example I was able to successfully 
test Instagram via Safari on an iPhone, and simultaneously fail to see the same 
content on the Instagram App on the same phone.

At this point we are struggling to narrow down the root cause. We have looked 
at everything from traffic volume to ISP instabilities. But as yet there is no 
consistent smoking gun. My reason for reaching out to the group is we are 
running slightly dated code on our HA pair of 5520s. We are running 8.8.111 and 
plan to upgrade to the latest release as soon as possible. But I’m wondering if 
anyone out there is running 8.8.111 that have seen or is seeing similar issues.

Thanks

Sean

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