I don’t think waiting to enable ax features will provide much relief for the intel driver problem. People don’t update their wireless drivers without a reason, so most of the drivers that are incompatible today will still be incompatible next fall. IMHO, we're just going to have to suffer through that problem.
My bigger concern is IoT stuff, which is far less likely to have a fix available. Anybody have ax enabled in their dorms? How's it working there? Thanks, Chuck -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Norman Elton Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 9:44 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Status of Wi-Fi 6 Client Drivers? We uncovered the same driver issue shortly after deploying 802.11ax. We mitigated by leaving 802.11ax enabled on the 5GHz radios, but disabling on the 2.4 radios. This way, compliant devices can connect and take advantage of 5Ghz connectivity. Those devices with faulty Intel drivers can still connect, albeit at substantially reduced data rates. There may be some inner workings of 802.11ax that I don't recall, but this worked for us! This was on our Mist AP43s, limited to a single building. The rest of campus is running 802.11ac access points from Aerohive. Norman Elton William & Mary On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:38 PM Lee H Badman <000000db5b77bd95-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote: > > What is truly frustrating is that all vendors involved are likely members of > the Wi-Fi Alliance, whose "interoperability" testing obviously isn't getting > it done. > > One man's opinion. ________________________________ > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Ethan Grinnell > <grinn...@pdx.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 5:31:30 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Status of Wi-Fi 6 Client Drivers? > > I recently wanted to do testing with an affected driver and was able > to obtain them on OEM websites instead of directly from Intel. This > build has the issue with WiFi6 SSID visibility: > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupp > ort.lenovo.com%2Fus%2Fen%2Fdownloads%2FDS103594&data=02%7C01%7Ccae > 104%40PSU.EDU%7C5f85db20ad6a480d24b008d8602b46f9%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c > 1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637365086281023045&sdata=45PRv3hF8%2FwfgFb > uci2U1gIqrlC17XAGILCWUBy%2F4Qo%3D&reserved=0 > > Also, I noticed that the Windows 10 built-in driver for many Intel > WiFi chips is version 17.x (It was on my test client) which didn't > seem to have the issue. So that's fun, it's not just versions lower > than some baseline build number being affected. I didn't test many > different builds, but it looked like 17.x was good, 18.x, 19.x, and > 20.x had some affected builds. More information here: > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F000054799%2 > Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless.html&data=02%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7 > C5f85db20ad6a480d24b008d8602b46f9%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7 > C0%7C0%7C637365086281023045&sdata=lD4k2P%2BlL0%2Ba6GKJKfOCpo7OClpi > GeJ2pLYAfUHR%2F6U%3D&reserved=0 > > The issue is still around. Many BYOD types require users to update their own > drivers, which few seem to do. Windows doesn't always update the drivers > either, so there could potentially be lingering issues from outdated drivers > for a long time. > > Ethan Grinnell > CCIE R&S #39723, BS CmpE > Network Engineer > Office of Information Technology, Technology Infrastructure, > Networking Portland State University > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 2:01 PM Mike Atkins <matk...@nd.edu> wrote: >> >> We deployed our ax capable APs without ax enabled for the same Intel driver >> issues. I wanted to test something with a flawed driver recently and >> noticed it is no longer available from Intel. I think Intel revamped their >> downloads page at the end of last year to remove all but the newest >> revisions of drivers. We use SecureW2 for eduroam onboarding so we can get >> a sense of drivers used by Windows devices. We will probably enable Wi-Fi 6 >> next year if the numbers continue to look good. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike Atkins >> >> Infrastructure Architect >> >> Office of Information Technology >> >> University of Notre Dame >> >> Phone: 574-631-7210 >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- .__o >> >> ----- _-\_<, >> >> --- (*)/'(*) >> >> >> >> >> >> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv >> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Nadim El-Khoury >> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 4:41 PM >> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Status of Wi-Fi 6 Client Drivers? >> >> >> >> Hi Eric, >> >> >> >> One more thing that I forgot to answer. We elected to keep Wi-Fi 6 enabled >> and just disabled it in the vicinity of our Technical Support Center (User >> Support) in the Library building. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Nadim >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:35 PM Floyd, Brad <bfl...@mail.smu.edu> wrote: >> >> Eric, >> I have deployed almost 200 of the Aruba 530 series APs so far in the last >> 2-3 months. I saw, first hand, what happens with the 802.11ax enabled SSID >> and the flawed Intel drivers. The SSIDs don't appear to those devices. When >> we were discussing whether or not to deploy the ax APs vs stick with ac APs, >> we decided we wanted the longer remaining life span before end-of-sale / >> end-of-support of the APs of the ax vs the ac. The added benefit Aruba >> provides is that it is very simple to disable the features (just a single >> check box on a profile). We figure we can wait for a semester or two and >> schedule an attempt to re-enable the features. A driver update definitely >> fixes the issue, but since we are so heavily loaded with BYOD devices that >> we have no control over, this was a better option for us. Hopefully this >> helps. >> Thanks, >> Brad >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv >> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Kenny, Eric >> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 3:14 PM >> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Status of Wi-Fi 6 Client Drivers? >> >> Hi All, >> >> I know on-campus populations might not be what they usually are right now, >> but I was wondering if anyone has seen reports of buggy client side drivers >> causing issues with 802.11ax. Specifically we are using the Aruba AP-530 >> series AP. 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