We don't have dedicated outdoor APs, but purposefully designed our indoor coverage to be less-efficient than was needful, placing APs to deliberately cover outdoor spaces near building entrances and common gathering areas via bleed-through. It's worked well, but we're a small campus in place that gets pretty cold for much of the school year. If we were larger, or had more outdoor activities for more of the year, we might have done this differently. We also only have a single .1x SSID and a single open guest SSID. The .1x network spans several vlans, but vlan assignment is sticky to the individual, so it's the same network for all their devices as they move around campus.
Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology York College of Nebraska On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 6:02 PM Michael Usher < 0000010ef28e43bf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote: > We broadcast the same SSIDs outdoors as indoors but we have different RF > Profiles outdoors (allows lower data rates). > > For campus buildings, it's eduroam (our main service) plus Guest. > > For dorms, we have a ResWiFi and Guest. > > We keep eduroam and Guest in one IP range, but we do segment our Dorm > networks by college area. > > One big reason for using the same SSID indoors / outdoors is to keep the > outdoor clients separated so as not to burn airtime on indoor APs, > degrading service for indoor users. > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 3:38 PM Richie Penuela <richie.penu...@ucf.edu> > wrote: > >> Our standard WLANs in our University are secured network, guest, and >> eduroam. We broadcast the same SSIDS both indoors and outdoors for the >> mentioned reason of a seamless experience and there will be times that both >> will bleed over the other. We have specific WLANs and SSIDs for outside >> vendors since we wanted to segment those outside our secured/academic >> network. >> >> >> >> -Respectfully, >> >> >> >> *[image: signature_1584035786]* >> >> Wireless Network Architect >> >> *UCF **IT Telecommunications* >> >> University of Central Florida >> >> *richie.penu...@ucf.edu <richie.penu...@ucf.edu>* >> >> *it.ucf.edu <http://it.ucf.edu>* >> >> >> >> *Please note:* Florida has a very broad open records law (F.S. 119). >> Emails may be subject to public disclosure. >> >> >> >> *From: *The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv < >> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Mike Atkins < >> matk...@nd.edu> >> *Reply-To: *The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv < >> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> >> *Date: *Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:54 PM >> *To: *"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" < >> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> >> *Subject: *[WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor WLANs? >> >> >> >> For those of you running outdoor Wi-Fi covering public space, do you >> broadcast the same WLANs as in building? Do you have a specific strategy >> for why or why not? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> TLDR: >> >> Being a Northern Indiana campus, the demand for outdoor Wi-Fi during the >> school year has been fairly low. Last year has changed this for all of >> us. We face the same challenges as everyone else with cost/aesthetics vs >> return on investment. We are looking to provide some legit coverage this >> year and get out of the "temporary" outdoor setups. We are a two SSID >> campus with eduroam being our dot1X secure network and ND-guest being open >> unauthenticated Internet access only "guest" network. The question came up >> out of a discussion related to ensuring performance for >> faculty/staff/students in the public outdoor spaces but my other concern is >> for our Information Security group. An open guest network might be okay in >> a building where we can track your device down fairly quickly but outdoors >> might complicate this. 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