Barry at Mutual Data wrote:

Hello Jeromie,

First, I'm with Mark on this issue. This form sucks lemons.
Same Here.

But on to the article, I see no reason why I need to submit to a city
if I wish to send video over my system.

We are not talking YOUR system. We are talking about COAX/FIBER on/in the ROW.

I am an information packet
sending service. What business is it of theirs? Who cares what is in
each packet.

The whole "franchise" thing, IMNSHO, should be a dead issue

Sure, we dont need ROW access (I could use it very well and put the local cable and telco out of business,
but lets dump it nad give them more of a monopoly)

(like telco
monopolies should be) since many  companies NOW want to build out systems.
 Back in 1960whatever I can  see why a franchise would have been needed
 to help the cable company bring in video. But those days are over.
Did you miss what a franchise is? A franchise gets you right of way access to pull your copper/fiber on poles
or trench it. You do NOT need one if you use wireless.

If I stream video who cares......

On wireless, no one.

Oh they want a cut of the business
but not provide one iota of risk or effort to make it work.

ROW access is risky for the city, and you.

I think
that is the definition of parasite.

Large Goverment also

A better solution would have
muni's building open systems that anyone can access, who cares what
info is being sent to the customer.
I dunno, smells fishy to me and takes control of the network away from me. Not what I want.

Hell, I want to build a head end just to be able to stream 100 channels of
video to my customers. Sheesh its just MTV, go shoot me......
Please what wireless system are you using that can support 100 channels at the same time??? If your thinking of pulling cable on poles you gotta have permission in the form of a franchise with the city. Same for digging. Yup they take anyplace up to 10% (some places might be
more, all ive seen so far my self is 4 to 7.5%).

Jeromie


Barry



Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 1:29:10 PM, you wrote:

JR> Under the current FCC chairman i have to agree.

JR> 
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2005-08-22-telecom-usat_x.htm?POE=MONISVA

JR> The only thing i get from that is they now want to alter the franchise
JR> process to allow telcos to do something
JR> they already can and know exactly how to do. Add this to the recent
JR> ruling that cable co's do not need to
JR> share and you got people on a grass knoll. I agree with Mark that we are
JR> being setup for a fall.

JR> Jeromie


JR> Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

I'm quite sure it's only real purpose is finding out where all of us are,
and where we are  and who we are so we can be easily taxed and regulated.

Like Congress gives a rip about small business?    Only so as it gives them
numbers to pontificate about.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
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In this particular case it's actually a very good thing Mark.

Part of what's kept us at arm's length in a number of venues is the lack
of


numbers.  The FCC is trying to get an accurate count and this was an
existing system for doing just that.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181                                   Equipment sales
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42846865 (icq)                                    And I run my own wisp!
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477


While you're at it, could you ask them what thier regulatory power comes
from?   How can they impose fines on a non-regulated business, that does
not
require thier action to exist?

Further, what's the justification in the first place?   I think this is
the
camel's nose and if we don't stand up and tell them to shove off, we'll
be


steamrollered into non-existence real fast.


North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477


Did you understand 90% of it?  We skipped a ton.  And I sent a note to
the
FCC asking if a more isp centric form could be created.

laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181                                   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
42846865 (icq)                                    And I run my own
wisp!


64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <wireless@wispa.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Filing for FCC form 477


For those of you in the states...remember that you have to file form
477
with the FCC by September 1.

Here is a link to the form:

http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html#477

Took me about 30 minutes to get mine done.

Cheers,

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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