Matt,
I believe that means that the VOIP line to the customer must be able to dial
911.
However, I believe it is allowed, that if at the provider's switch, they
intercept 911 calls, and redirect to a pots line connected to the providers
switch, it complies.
So if you ahve a local regional switch and terminate local regional offices
to that switch, the Pots line at the providers switch would give an
appropriate location for the subscriber to 911. Is that correct?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:55 AM
Subject: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -
Skype,Yahoo, MS)
Anyone who thinks that providing a POTS line along with VoIP service for
911 compliance either has read the order and/or has checked with council.
If you provide any VoIP service your VOIP must be 911 compliant as per
the order. Any other services you may or others may provide to the
customer are not considered when testing your specific service for
compliance.
-Matt
On Jun 19, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
One way to cherry pick on VOIP is to specialize in the phone systems and
make sure that they keep at least one POTS line. Then, even with a dead
internet connection, they will still have (albeit limited) capabilitity
to get out and receive phone calls, and also to handle 911.
I recently sold an 11 extension, four POTS line Asterisk phone system to
a small business for around $2500, phones included. There was a
considerable amount of profit margin in that amount, and it beat the
nearest local competitor by $3000. The customer picked up my 1meg
Internet service for $49.95 a month and is paying $50/month for 3000
minutes of long distance and a toll free line. I also get at least $35
every time they need a change made to their phone service (new phones,
reconfiguration, etc). Because the 911 and local dial tone is all on
the POTS lines, you clevely sidestep that risk. This beats the heck out
of trying to do the "outsourced PBX" service, because they have hardware
onsite and flexibility to go with multiple providers for dial tone,
including land line ones.
Just another way to look at the picture.
Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter R. wrote:
Marlon,
He did say he was selling to SMB, not Resi.
Very few small businesses are going to use Yahoo, AIM, or MS as a
dial-tone replacement. Skype is free within the US now, so some will
try that, but there are security concerns (growing daily) about VoIP,
especially with the mandatory CALEA compliance.
(http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,19495174%5E24170%
5E%5Enbv%5E24169,00.html)
Weekly, ISPs come to me to offer VoIP. After the CommPartners mess, I
stopped referring clients to anyone. You just don't know what the
Wizard of Oz is really doing. Doing it yourself is difficult. When you
take over the dial-tone of a business, you better make sure that you
have 5 Nines of reliability with redundancy built-in, because if the
phones are working, they are losing customers.
And, Marlon, you are correct - most VoIP Providers are NOT making any
money. 4Q05 delta3 did $9.1M in revenue and kept $25k in income. MSOs
are probably making $$ on VoIP because they own the network, charge a
higher rate, and have fixed modems that mitigate the 911 issue. The top
7 MSOs now have 10M VoIP users.
When you consider that many CLECs like USLEC, FDN, ITC only have 25k
customers and can barely eek out a living using wireline, you have to
consider that VoIP may be difficult to profit on, too.
Many will tell me that they are killing it - profitably - but these
same companies have less than 1000 broadband subscribers. At a 15% take
rate, that is 150 VoIP users. That is manageble and using Asterisk and
a CLEC PRI in a small region could be profitable, before scale, growth,
and scope start to weigh you down.
Regards,
Peter
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
I still believe that there's no money in voip for the service
provider. Not in the long term.
The money will be in the ability to offer good voip capacity but not
the voip it's self.
Yeah, I know, there are people making money with voip. I heard that
song and dance about hot spots too. IF you are one of the few out
that with just the right model, capabilities, market etc. good for
you.
For the rest of the WISP market, there's far more money to be made
over the years offering transport. Especially if the trend for DSL
and cable companies to mess up other people's voip continues.
Here's the real nail in the coffin of voip:
http://im.yahoo.com/feat_voice.php;_ylt=AlRactYLuOa7.Wxwqq5epPBwMMIF
And that's just ONE provider. More are bound to come.
Marlon
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