I can tell you what I do online and on the telephone. I assume I am being monitored all the time. (No...not in that paranoid "they're out to get me" sort of way). Why should anyone think otherwise? It is not as if the legal system cannot listen in or watch if they really want to. All it takes is a court to approve a tap. It is not that big a deal to the legal system.
I am not advocating that we help the government strip away our civil liberties. If I did not think they were part anti-Christ I would likely join and support the ACLU because our government is chiseling away at our civil liberties one by one, a piece at a time, slowly and methodically and none of us are really doing anything but watching it happen and whining about it occasionally. Just like that boiling frog analogy someone expressed on here recently (I really liked that analogy by the way).
What I am saying is it would probably be a better service to our customers if we simply tell them the facts. Let them know that if they do something out of line on the Internet that there is a very good chance they will be tracked and caught. There are in fact legal efforts online setup to trap folks who are doing bad things. They exist and they catch lots of people doing bad things. I cannot help but think that part of the reason for this increase in criminal behavior is born from a false sense of security people have that they can go do things on the Internet that nobody will ever catch them or see them doing. They think they are invisible or somehow that the laws do not apply while they are online.
Maybe if we warn our fellow citizens of the false sense of security about anonymity then maybe they will curb some dark repressed desire to go find little girls to chat with or try to setup that date with the hooker or download that bootleg copy of Snakes on a Plane. I do think people need to start using a little more self-control or they will actually bring on more erosion of their civil liberties. If we all work toward a better culture online then maybe the government will have less grounds to erode the open nature of this wonderful medium. This all has very little to do with how we might lobby for our own objectives involving the tracking of online activity but it makes for good debate none the less.
Scriv Tim Kerns wrote:
*Qwest on data retention laws: Oops*http://news.com.com/Qwest+on+data+retention+laws+Oops/2100-1028-6108926.html?part=dht&tag=nl.e703 <http://news.com.com/Qwest+on+data+retention+laws+Oops/2100-1028-6108926.html?part=dht&tag=nl.e703> Looks like someone may be updating their resume.....----- Original Message ----- *From:* Travis Johnson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2006 6:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WHY? Hi, You have to connect to the internet backbone somewhere (even if in multiple locations, etc.). You would simply need a $500 PC at each connection. Pretty simple. Travis Microserv Mark Koskenmaki wrote:Travis, my network has no such "central" point. There is no point where my traffic passes through or can be "mirrored" to a single point at a building. In less than a year, it will all be dynamically routed via BGP, through physically diverse locations and providers, and again, traffic from the customers will not pass through any place where "logging" can be done. Nor have I any location to keep such data secure.----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WHY?Hi, Although I am totally against this, we are already doing this (and keepinga year's worth of history). Keep in mind we move about 110Mbps of traffic average. We setup a linux box (p4/2.8ghz with 1GB of RAM and a 200GB drive) about a year ago and installed IpAudit. This single box is able to keep up with the traffic load and helps us track down customers that are infected, SPAMMING, etc.We simply mirror our main incoming port on our backbone switch to anotherport, and plug the IpAudit box into that port. Works great. :)Travis Microserv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Why? Because it will severely burden smaller ISP's that lack the network infrastructure to do this. Is WISPA lobbying against this? It will be nearly impossible for most of us in the wireless business to do this, without major restructuring, or a huge expense that we can't afford.----- Original Message ----- From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:05 AM Subject: [WISPA] WHY?http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6108279.html?part=rss&tag=6108279&subj=newsWhy would Qwest want ISP's to have to retain this data? George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.5/426 - Release Date: 8/23/2006
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