It is interesting Rick and creative, but with all due respect, you are
not building a network that you are going to be able to sell most likely
or at least certainly not for a good price. As well, you can't offer
advanced services if you want to grow into them. Rick, it is a serious
question: what is your path for growth and/or path to have a
satisfactory exit?

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:35 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients

There's no license fees if you're buying routerboards for Mikrotik.

Also, add 2.4 cards (SR2) and cabling / antenna at each client, and
you've
now built
a mesh, so to speak, with coverage off each customer to new customers.

Those setups add about $200 here and there when you do the repeaters.
But
again,
Alvarion can't touch $500 for 900 CPE and 2.4 AP all on one POE cable.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:27 PM
To: Joe Laura; WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients

It is a fair question and what I would say is that the AU is an even
more
critical point in the network. Our AUs have options to be inserted into
chassis with redundant power supplies, etc. The difference in cost of
the AU
is minimal when working out the entire cost of the sector and its
clients,
especially when working in the OPEX issues.

For example, OPEX aside, let's say you are in the AlvarionCOMNET program
and
buy at the minimum level of 25 CPE, which would get you a $285/CPE cost
with
free shipping. Let's assume all 25 of those attach to a VL sector. In
that
case the sector will cost you about $1900 plus $285 x 25, or $9,025. The
equivalent size network at Mikrotik with the prices in this thread would
be
$348 x 25 + the $500 AU or $9,200 + shipping.
So, not even counting the OPEX issues, reduced truck roll, and shipping
we
are $175 cheaper. Then add in the 1 year free warranty, domestic
support,
FCC legality, and higher equity value of the network. Let's not forget
no
user license fees, no fee for new software upgrades.

Is my math wrong? The business equation seems simple unless I am
seriously
missing something.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joe Laura
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients

But is your A/P under $500.00 like the RB532 and SR9? K, Im just
kidding.
Its Friday.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:20 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients


Dang, that's as much as $100 more than a real BreezeACCESS CPE (under
the
AlvarionCOMNET program) without needing to piece things together so the
points of failure risk and truck roll is both much smaller, not to
mention a
warranty and domestic supply and support. VL CPE comes with mounting
hardware too and the cable. Our stuff is also all fully FCC legal.

(donning flame suit now)

- Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients

Exactly, after you add the rootenna,  you are at $348, plus
International
Shipping charges (if in US).


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message -----
From: "cw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients


> http://www.star-v3.com/store/
>
> $262 ea in ten packs + roo.
>
> Rick Smith wrote:
>> Where are people buying their SR9 client setups, if at all ?
>>  What kind of pricing per "CPE"
>>  I'm looking at a couple places, and coming back with like $350 each
for
>> a
>> rootenna / cable / SR9 / P.S. and RB112  Anyone see anything 
>> different ?
>>  R
>>
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