The ISP is directly affected by the bandwidth used by an account but is also affected by the loss of revenue if that account is redistributing the service. That is theft of service the same as wiring up an apartment building with cable TV from a single account.
Connection measuring can put a constraint on P2P since many of the BitTorrent types can open thousands of flows when they need to. However, it may not be an indication of service redistribution since, for example, redistributing Internet access to an office park behind a gateway may show up only a couple dozen flows and not eat up significant bandwidth but cost you the revenue of a dozen accounts per month. . . . j o n a t h a n -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing Care to share what the simultaneous connection limits you used? On 2/17/07, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The way I make them understand is that I tell them that I have hundreds of > businesses (call them by name) that use less than 3gigs of data transfer a > month. I also tell them that it is relatively impossible for them to even > get close to 2 gigs of transfer by sending emails, general surfing, > goggling...etc without hitting the P2P stuff downloading movies & music. > > We do limit p2p on this network as well as limit residential threads onto > the internet. We have always shaped the P2P on the network as a whole, but > only in the last 2 months have we limited the connections. I must confess > that it brought the bandwidth utilization down by 7mbps. That is a TRAMATIC > difference! > > > > Mac Dearman > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 1:03 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing > > Yes, but how do you explain what 5G/month is to the average sub?? > They worry because they don't see this with the 'big boys' that > advertize & don't sevre their area. Do you find it takes alot more > selling/education for each sub? > > On 2/17/07, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I tell my residential subs that we don't care if they have a hundred PCs. > We > > don't have a cap on bandwidth that is available, but we do tell them that > > with each subscription is included 5gigs of data transfer per month. We > sale > > bandwidth for a living and it is metered just like electricity and water. > > Help yourself to all you want, but it is not a free for all or a buffet > > where you can eat all you want for the low low price of $8.99. > > > > I realize I will probably get a scalding rebuke over my 5gigs, but I don't > > have copper in the ground or FTTH to allow a Hogs feast on my bandwidth. I > > run a very successful WIRELESS ISP and the BH pipes and APs are all > limited > > in the amount of data they can carry. That is not my fault, but it is my > > problem and that is how I deal with it! I never have a complaint and I > sell > > a fantastic service. > > > > Mac Dearman > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Mark Nash > > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 12:08 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing > > > > We just tell them that the fact that they have more computers will > > inevitably increase the expected bandwidth usage. We're flexible on it. > > Essentially, if we have a customer that is clearly a business setup, we > > charge more. If it is an ultra-geek setup, we'll charge it. If it's a > mom > > & pop shop that just so happens to go over the threshold, we don't worry > > about it. > > > > Mark Nash > > Network Engineer > > UnwiredOnline.Net > > 350 Holly Street > > Junction City, OR 97448 > > http://www.uwol.net > > 541-998-5555 > > 541-998-5599 fax > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 3:45 AM > > Subject: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing > > > > > > >I noticed that many WISPs have plans based on how many customer > > > computers are hooked up to the customer's service. How does that > > > work? Your installer counts computers initially, but then what? > > > > > > I have several power users with 5-10 computers and would like to move > > > them to another plan, but need to understand how others do it. > > > -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
