I see little benefit to protesting the Calea/DOJ judgement, as compliance is a mute point, if it were easy and cost effective to comply. A preferred method to proceed is to lobby for what changes in standards they need to make to allow it to be easy to conform. DOJ doesn't concern itself with "HOW" to conform, they aren't ISPs and knowledgeable in our business. Its our job to educate them on our capabilties. I'd argue that its teh TELCOs, that are the enemies on this issue, that have been very involved with the officials on this matter, and probably purposefully did not lobby for standards that would be easy for their competitors to comply to.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Calea - what will we need to provide ?


On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:47:20 -0400, Peter R. wrote
During the Brand-X Supreme Court case, the DEA, the FBI and the DOJ
clearly spelled out that ISP and VoIP traffic would need to be CALEA
compliant. It isn't the FCC, it is the DOJ.

Oh, please.  The DOJ doesn't write law.  the DOJ wants EVERYTHING.  If it
were up to them, they would intercept every packet of data and every voice
transmission, and they've all but said so.  Too bad.  That's wrong, and
that's the truth.


Your statements take us back to all the "lobbying efforts" that
CLEC's and ISP's have ever done: Don't regulate us - just them.
That's not how it works.

If you'd read what I say, instead knee-jerk reaction, you'd know this was
wrong.


You want UL spectrum. You want more of it.
But this is not a one-way street.

I have to give up my constitutional rights to get the FCC to carry out it's
assigned duties?  Hell no!


To get you have to give.
You have to fill out your forms without whining so much.
You have to be able to help the Department of Justice catch the bad
guys - without the bad guys knowing.

Again, here we go again. You make up stuff and then slam me for it. I don't get it. CALEA is not applicable law. It is WRONG for the feds to require US
to pay for what they want.  Period.

Do you not get that? That's why CALEA contained a half billion dollars, to fund the changes that they wanted implemented, and it was a VERY NARROW LAW.

Just because the DOJ and FBI suddenly show up and ask for the moon is no
reason under the sun to even suggest we should go along with it. They don't
write the law, AND CONGRESS DID NOT WRITE ANY LAW TO APPLY TO US!!!!!  The
FCC has misapplied via "opinion" that it does, when it does not.


Polling the WISPs. Yeah! They'd answer. You can't get them to fill
out a poll or a form.

Not when it comes to begging the feds to do us in, of course not.


When Patrick says herding long tail cats in a roomful of rocking
chairs, he is almost accurate.
(It is actually MUCH harder than that in this "industry").

The squeaky wheels are few but much larger than the silent majority.
But typically they can ruin it for the lot.

RUIN???? Ruin what? Do you ACTUALLY think all this stupid brown-nosing is
going to buy us something?   Please.  That's being more gullible than the
emperor's cheering squad.

Those of us who have the guts to speak up are the only ones who appear to
have ANY interest in your future at all.




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Mark Koskenmaki  <> Neofast, Inc
Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains
541-969-8200

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