At 10:53 AM -0500 3/14/07, JohnnyO wrote:
15K seems awful low for a tower on top of a mountain.....
You can build a 100ft Rohn45/Rohn55 for 15k - on flat / level land where
there aren't any major challenges.... Then again - No Cell carrier I
know of would go on such a tower.
What kind of tower are you wanting to put up ? Guy'd / Freestanding ?
Guy'd in this case.
Soil Conditions ? Rocky / Sandy / Loose dirt ? Hard clay ?
Hard soil (clay and rock are prevalent in that area, though I don't
know about this particular site yet). My previous proposed tower
location (which we ended up not needing, at a different site) had
easy to work with ground (former farmland on the top of a broad hill).
<several good points snipped for brevity>
What I am trying to make you realize is that you'll be looking at
anywhere from 40k - 60k to get this done... With a hope and a prayer on
picking up a carrier - that's a ton of $$ to throw out there....
Okay, this is good feedback...and I feel (appropriately) chastised
;-). Putting a tower up at this location is clearly vastly different
than what I was looking at doing before. I really appreciate the
response (and feel like, if I'd thought about this just a bit more, I
should have realized how different this would be).
Thanks for the responses!
Chuck
JohnnyO
APGWireless, LLC
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Behalf Of Frank Watts
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [SPAM] [WISPA] A new tower for WISP and Cell Carrier?
First of all just because you don't have a signal does not mean a cell
carrier is waiting for you to put up a tower but that said I built a
120'
Commercial tower back 3 years ago and total cost to build was around
50k.
That was a tower to support cell and two way radio at 90mph wind load.
I
think most cell carriers are asking for 105mph load now days. I guess
what
I'm saying is I would build the tower you need for the wireless if you
need
it now.
just a FYI I have 2 towers that are Cell phone ready in North Georgia
for
over 3 years now and no cell carriers in fact at one site a giant tower
company built a tower 1/4 mile down the road and it has 4 carriers on it
now
and I never got a call and all my calls to the carriers went un
answered.
Frank
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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: [SPAM] [WISPA] A new tower for WISP and Cell Carrier?
I've got a remote rural location where we're thinking of putting up a
100' tower on a "mountain" owned by a large customer. Turns out that
location can see one of our existing networks, which is great.
However, the customer has extremely poor (or non-existent) cell phone
coverage and would like to use this as an opportunity to possibly
support a cell phone carrier-and they are willing to pay for the
tower if it's not 'excessively' expensive to do so.
Now, I've got no experience putting up towers, though with the work
I'd done for past potential towers, I've been estimating maybe $15K
in costs for a tower that only needs to support a WISP (counting the
cost of the tower, a local tower company to erect it, and zoning
fees. If this is off base, I'm open to comments here too).
Of course, I know even less about what a cell company might be
expected to need than I do about tower construction.
Can anyone give me reasonable budget numbers for a 100' tower that
could support (from a loading standpoint) both a WISP (using, say, 3
120 degree sectors and a 3' back haul dish) and a cell company? If
there's not enough information, just a reasonable estimate and the
basis for it might help to decide if this is worth pursuing. If
you're a vendor, please feel free to contact me (via email) off list.
Thanks!
Chuck
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