>I haven't seen but one DECT phone here and it was very basic, but I expect
>that the technology will quickly be expanded to products like the multi
>handset systems, etc that are getting popular from Uniden and all the
>others.

There's a reason you haven't seen these products here.  I began searching for 
why the last time a thread discussed the 1.9GHz UL band surfaced on this list.  
I doubt you'll ever see much product ever emerge for this band in the United 
States.  There's a reason for this too ...


I've heard some discussion on this list regarding how "the FCC gave the 
industry UL spectrum and they didn't use it."  With such a connection, wisps 
must understand why this band has been underutilized here (as well as judging 
the chances of new products emerging).

Years ago the FCC took this band away from Pt-Pt microwave users.  They 
authorized a group called UTAM to pay what was necessary to move these 
microwave users to clear the band.  Apparently UTAM spent "whatever it took" 
since it wasn't there money.  Manufacturers wanting to field UL product had to 
pay UTAM what were known as "clearing fees".  Check out 
http://www.utam.org/ClearingFees.html.  Prior to April 1 2005 the clearing fees 
were enough to dissuade any manufacturer from building UL product for the 
United States!  IMHO the UTAM fees doubled the cost of producing UL product.  
Since April 1 2005 the fees drop to a mere 50 cents per radio, but a 
manufacturer must still pay UTAM $50,000 up front.  With the lack of products, 
UTAM has amassed a huge debt.

The FCC groundrules for clearing the Pt-Pt users from the band were more than 
enough to insure that this UL band would never be effectively utilized in the 
United States.

Just my opinion,
Rich
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ralph 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:45 AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Using DECT phones to avoid interference issues.


  I deployed a DECT (Digital European Cordless Telecommunications) system with
  450 handsets several years ago.

  The phones were single line units made by Phillips.  They system worked OK,
  but the features were very lacking.  The frequency range was 1880-1900 MHz
  This deployment was in Paris, France and was connected behind a PBX. There
  were about 21 "base stations", each one capable of supporting many
  conversations.

  The DECT system is interesting because it is the standard in Europe and
  people's home handsets could be registered on this system. All I had to do
  was enter the code # into the management system.  We were afraid that the
  handsets might begin disappearing due to the interoperability, but these
  handsets were so cheesy that the home models were much better.

  The DECT system did handoff calls as the users walked between base stations,
  which was pretty cool.

  A year or so aqo, DECT was authorized here in the US, on slightly different
  frequencies: 1920-1930 MHz. There was not any general hoopla at all around
  this introduction.

  DECT isn't GSM, but the two are made to be very compatible and in Europe,
  there are dual mode DECT/GSM phones.  These systems, which are sometimes
  used in installations like mine, allow the user to switch over to a more
  cost-effective DECT connection when in range, and the GSM signaling is
  passed over to the DECT system, but in DECT format.

  I haven't seen but one DECT phone here and it was very basic, but I expect
  that the technology will quickly be expanded to products like the multi
  handset systems, etc that are getting popular from Uniden and all the
  others.

  It should eliminate all WISP interference for sure!

  Ralph






  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
  Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:54 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Using DECT phones to avoid interference issues.

  All,

  I am sure some of you have already thought of this but I would suggest a 
  great alternative to avoid interference with the most common frequencies 
  used to deploy wireless networks would be to use DECT cordless phones in 
  the house. They use the 1.9Ghz frequency and are relatively inexpensive. 
  We use a DECT phone system here with all the features we could ever ask 
  for and we got them for a song after the rebate.

  Just a thought.

  Regards,
  Dawn DiPietro
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